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sydtheeagle England 17 Jan 14 10.48am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Jan 2014 10.41am I could kiss you syd for that clarification. (Fuels suspicion that Hoof is gay) French? (Fuels suspicion that Syd has added Hoof to Funty on his gay hitlist) Edited by sydtheeagle (17 Jan 2014 10.49am) Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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England 17 Jan 14 10.48am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 17 Jan 2014 10.41am

I could kiss you syd for that clarification.

(Fuels suspicion that Hoof is gay)

French?

(Fuels suspicion that Syd has added Hoof to Funty on his gay hitlist)

Edited by sydtheeagle (17 Jan 2014 10.49am)

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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Mapletree Croydon 17 Jan 14 11.07am
Quote thommo1 at 17 Jan 2014 10.38am The thing is Maple and with respect I think your missing the point no pun intended but I think what most people are saying on here is that IF we have or signed a openly gay player then the vast majority of the Palace fans would not give two hoots and get behind him, again no pun intended. What you seem to be saying is that we should actively go out and find a gay player just so we can be regarded as cool and that is what people are finding a bit.. well .. not really how constructing a skillful sporting team is all about really. Don't think I ever said we should actively go and find an 'out' gay player or encourage one to come out Thommo. Just putting forward the concept that it would be cool to be the first club to have someone and that we are in a good place to do that should it happen. It certainly doesn't mean, as implied earlier, that I would value being gay over being a great player, clearly the opposite. From the more recent part of this thread, it seems we are aligned, we would support an out gay player. Maybe we could indeed put it about that if an outstanding player wanted to come out then we would welcome him joining us, may get some real talent on the cheap.
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Quote thommo1 at 17 Jan 2014 10.38am

The thing is Maple and with respect I think your missing the point no pun intended but I think what most people are saying on here is that IF we have or signed a openly gay player then the vast majority of the Palace fans would not give two hoots and get behind him, again no pun intended.

What you seem to be saying is that we should actively go out and find a gay player just so we can be regarded as cool and that is what people are finding a bit.. well .. not really how constructing a skillful sporting team is all about really.

Don't think I ever said we should actively go and find an 'out' gay player or encourage one to come out Thommo. Just putting forward the concept that it would be cool to be the first club to have someone and that we are in a good place to do that should it happen. It certainly doesn't mean, as implied earlier, that I would value being gay over being a great player, clearly the opposite.

From the more recent part of this thread, it seems we are aligned, we would support an out gay player. Maybe we could indeed put it about that if an outstanding player wanted to come out then we would welcome him joining us, may get some real talent on the cheap.

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Mapletree Croydon 17 Jan 14 11.10am
Quote Rudi Hedman at 17 Jan 2014 10.33am Quote paperhat at 17 Jan 2014 9.16am Quote Mapletree at 16 Jan 2014 9.02pm Quote adrian b at 16 Jan 2014 6.12pm Quote Mapletree at 16 Jan 2014 12.43pm I was thinking how cool it would be to have the first openly gay Prem League footballer. Maybe even two. I think we are uniquely placed to live with the consequences, a tight-knit supportive club and group of fans, based in a highly cosmopolitan place. And we don't give a monkey's what anyone else thinks. Any views? I am sure there will be a range. I am certain Palace have had many gay players. Like the other teams in the Prem I bet Palace already have at least two now. They just need the bravery to come out foe their own sake. So what have we learned so far: 1 It doesn't matter if someone is openly gay, nobody cares 2 But we wouldn't want anyone to come out because they would get lots of stick 3 There is no need to consider whether we are gay friendly 4 If we were to try to make our club gay friendly then we wouldn't get any good players 5 We are already so gay friendly that we have a player who is gay in the first team 6 But nobody knows who it is - or at least nobody is saying 7 In any case we are all sure he wouldn't want to come out 8 And if he did we would have to immediately transfer him to Brighton 9 I must be gay Did I get it all correct? Doesn't anyone find it boring being so flaming predictable, can't we all try something a bit radical for a change? Hand holding in the Holmesdale? (sorry, couldnt resist it) I think you need a rethink on point 4, probably more. How do you encourage coming out for footballers? Singing, 'Oh South London is wonderful, it's full of heterosexuals, homosexuals and bi-sexuals, oh South London is wonderful?' Or playing Jimmy Sommerville tracks, or a couple of boy dancers in The Crystals for the women and gays? A serious point here, and some of what I've just said has some seriousness to it, maybe all this kind of encouraging coming out puts just as much pressure on a gay player as much as him keeping it PRIVATE for his limited time as a footballer, something he might just do without when trying to compete for his place, club, career, contract.... Probably why I couldn't give a sh1t which Palace player is gay or not. Leave him to it, his life and job. That list was just me feeding back what other people have said Rudi. Point 9 is also wrong in case anyone cares. But by the way I have never said I encourage someone to come out, it's there choice. What I would say, strongly, is that we should get ready for such an eventuality and make sure when it happens we are at our supportive best. It's what we do, we are Palace.
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Croydon 17 Jan 14 11.10am

Quote Rudi Hedman at 17 Jan 2014 10.33am

Quote paperhat at 17 Jan 2014 9.16am

Quote Mapletree at 16 Jan 2014 9.02pm

Quote adrian b at 16 Jan 2014 6.12pm

Quote Mapletree at 16 Jan 2014 12.43pm

I was thinking how cool it would be to have the first openly gay Prem League footballer. Maybe even two.

I think we are uniquely placed to live with the consequences, a tight-knit supportive club and group of fans, based in a highly cosmopolitan place. And we don't give a monkey's what anyone else thinks.

Any views? I am sure there will be a range.

I am certain Palace have had many gay players. Like the other teams in the Prem I bet Palace already have at least two now. They just need the bravery to come out foe their own sake.

So what have we learned so far:

1 It doesn't matter if someone is openly gay, nobody cares
2 But we wouldn't want anyone to come out because they would get lots of stick
3 There is no need to consider whether we are gay friendly
4 If we were to try to make our club gay friendly then we wouldn't get any good players
5 We are already so gay friendly that we have a player who is gay in the first team
6 But nobody knows who it is - or at least nobody is saying
7 In any case we are all sure he wouldn't want to come out
8 And if he did we would have to immediately transfer him to Brighton
9 I must be gay

Did I get it all correct?

Doesn't anyone find it boring being so flaming predictable, can't we all try something a bit radical for a change?

Hand holding in the Holmesdale?

(sorry, couldnt resist it)

I think you need a rethink on point 4, probably more.

How do you encourage coming out for footballers? Singing, 'Oh South London is wonderful, it's full of heterosexuals, homosexuals and bi-sexuals, oh South London is wonderful?' Or playing Jimmy Sommerville tracks, or a couple of boy dancers in The Crystals for the women and gays?

A serious point here, and some of what I've just said has some seriousness to it, maybe all this kind of encouraging coming out puts just as much pressure on a gay player as much as him keeping it PRIVATE for his limited time as a footballer, something he might just do without when trying to compete for his place, club, career, contract.... Probably why I couldn't give a sh1t which Palace player is gay or not. Leave him to it, his life and job.

That list was just me feeding back what other people have said Rudi. Point 9 is also wrong in case anyone cares.

But by the way I have never said I encourage someone to come out, it's there choice. What I would say, strongly, is that we should get ready for such an eventuality and make sure when it happens we are at our supportive best. It's what we do, we are Palace.

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sydtheeagle England 17 Jan 14 11.18am
Quote SE9 EAGLE at 17 Jan 2014 10.48am but their lilly livered,bearded,sandal wearing,Guardian reading bed wetters that take offence. Be careful with your cliches. You've just described me -- far to the left -- but I don't think I'm humourless. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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England 17 Jan 14 11.18am

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 17 Jan 2014 10.48am

but their lilly livered,bearded,sandal wearing,Guardian reading bed wetters that take offence.

Be careful with your cliches. You've just described me -- far to the left -- but I don't think I'm humourless.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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richard shaw (og)65 my minds eye 17 Jan 14 11.43am
I can just see the goal celebrations , a 3 man bum chain with the goal scorer the lucky pierre interviewer " iggy , do you think you influenced anybody?" iggy pop " I think I wiped out the 60`S "
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I can just see the goal celebrations , a 3 man bum chain with the goal scorer the lucky pierre

interviewer " iggy , do you think you influenced anybody?"
iggy pop " I think I wiped out the 60`S "

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 17 Jan 14 11.44am
Quote Part Time James at 16 Jan 2014 12.50pm I'd be very surprised if TP's scouting network wasn't following the priority order this transfer window: 1) A gay player 2) A strong striker who can score goals 3) Bolster the defence with an experienced centre back He won't have overlooked the need for a gay player, trust me. It's about time the Football Manager franchise added players sxuality to their stats as well because the other day I wanted to find a player with at least 15 for heading, 14 for balance and ideally bi-sxual but the filters weren't there so I had to settle for someone with unknown s*xuality. I lost 6-0 in my next game. Superb One of the greatest posts I've seen in a long long time. Top skills. Sorry if that all sounds a bit woofy Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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The sun always shines in Catford 17 Jan 14 11.44am

Quote Part Time James at 16 Jan 2014 12.50pm

I'd be very surprised if TP's scouting network wasn't following the priority order this transfer window:

1) A gay player
2) A strong striker who can score goals
3) Bolster the defence with an experienced centre back

He won't have overlooked the need for a gay player, trust me.

It's about time the Football Manager franchise added players s*xuality to their stats as well because the other day I wanted to find a player with at least 15 for heading, 14 for balance and ideally bi-s*xual but the filters weren't there so I had to settle for someone with unknown s*xuality. I lost 6-0 in my next game.

Superb One of the greatest posts I've seen in a long long time. Top skills.

Sorry if that all sounds a bit woofy

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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Jan 14 11.46am
Quote Superfly at 17 Jan 2014 11.44am Quote Part Time James at 16 Jan 2014 12.50pm I'd be very surprised if TP's scouting network wasn't following the priority order this transfer window: 1) A gay player 2) A strong striker who can score goals 3) Bolster the defence with an experienced centre back He won't have overlooked the need for a gay player, trust me. It's about time the Football Manager franchise added players sxuality to their stats as well because the other day I wanted to find a player with at least 15 for heading, 14 for balance and ideally bi-sxual but the filters weren't there so I had to settle for someone with unknown s*xuality. I lost 6-0 in my next game. Superb One of the greatest posts I've seen in a long long time. Top skills. Sorry if that all sounds a bit woofy No, that doesn't. But the pm you just sent him asking to meet at London Bridge after work does. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 17 Jan 14 11.46am

Quote Superfly at 17 Jan 2014 11.44am

Quote Part Time James at 16 Jan 2014 12.50pm

I'd be very surprised if TP's scouting network wasn't following the priority order this transfer window:

1) A gay player
2) A strong striker who can score goals
3) Bolster the defence with an experienced centre back

He won't have overlooked the need for a gay player, trust me.

Superb One of the greatest posts I've seen in a long long time. Top skills.

Sorry if that all sounds a bit woofy

No, that doesn't. But the pm you just sent him asking to meet at London Bridge after work does.

Big chest and massive boobs

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richard shaw (og)65 my minds eye 17 Jan 14 11.47am
Robbie rogers an ex leeds player who came out recently was on the pitch at half time at elland road and got a brilliant reception . whether an opposition gay player would get the same reception there I`m not sure . I agree with Kermit and others , these days its just name calling but you never know how the mob would re act . interviewer " iggy , do you think you influenced anybody?" iggy pop " I think I wiped out the 60`S "
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my minds eye 17 Jan 14 11.47am

Robbie rogers an ex leeds player who came out recently was on the pitch at half time at elland road and got a brilliant reception . whether an opposition gay player would get the same reception there I`m not sure .

I agree with Kermit and others , these days its just name calling but you never know how the mob would re act .

interviewer " iggy , do you think you influenced anybody?"
iggy pop " I think I wiped out the 60`S "

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Hoof Hearted 17 Jan 14 12.35pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 17 Jan 2014 11.18am Quote SE9 EAGLE at 17 Jan 2014 10.48am but their lilly livered,bearded,sandal wearing,Guardian reading bed wetters that take offence. Be careful with your cliches. You've just described me -- far to the left -- but I don't think I'm humourless. I'm not going to kiss you if you wet the bed Syd!
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Quote sydtheeagle at 17 Jan 2014 11.18am

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 17 Jan 2014 10.48am

but their lilly livered,bearded,sandal wearing,Guardian reading bed wetters that take offence.

Be careful with your cliches. You've just described me -- far to the left -- but I don't think I'm humourless.

I'm not going to kiss you if you wet the bed Syd!

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FinchleyEagle 17 Jan 14 1.23pm
Quote paperhat at 17 Jan 2014 9.16am Quote Mapletree at 16 Jan 2014 9.02pm Quote adrian b at 16 Jan 2014 6.12pm Quote Mapletree at 16 Jan 2014 12.43pm I was thinking how cool it would be to have the first openly gay Prem League footballer. Maybe even two. I think we are uniquely placed to live with the consequences, a tight-knit supportive club and group of fans, based in a highly cosmopolitan place. And we don't give a monkey's what anyone else thinks. Any views? I am sure there will be a range. I am certain Palace have had many gay players. Like the other teams in the Prem I bet Palace already have at least two now. They just need the bravery to come out foe their own sake. So what have we learned so far: 1 It doesn't matter if someone is openly gay, nobody cares 2 But we wouldn't want anyone to come out because they would get lots of stick 3 There is no need to consider whether we are gay friendly 4 If we were to try to make our club gay friendly then we wouldn't get any good players 5 We are already so gay friendly that we have a player who is gay in the first team 6 But nobody knows who it is - or at least nobody is saying 7 In any case we are all sure he wouldn't want to come out 8 And if he did we would have to immediately transfer him to Brighton 9 I must be gay Did I get it all correct? Doesn't anyone find it boring being so flaming predictable, can't we all try something a bit radical for a change? Hand holding in the Holmesdale? (sorry, couldnt resist it) When Brighton were last at Selhurst, I had as always the pleasure of the train journey from London Bridge with them. As there were way more of them than us at Norwood Junction they got a a bit loud for a while. In a gap one of us shouted "We can see you holding hands" and even a couple of their lads laughed. That's harmless fun. Brighton is the gay capital of England, they are from Brighton, therefore they are gay. Its a very mild insult along the lines of being the opposite of manly. You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue Yours sincerely Mile Jedinak
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17 Jan 14 1.23pm

Quote paperhat at 17 Jan 2014 9.16am

Quote Mapletree at 16 Jan 2014 9.02pm

Quote adrian b at 16 Jan 2014 6.12pm

Quote Mapletree at 16 Jan 2014 12.43pm

I was thinking how cool it would be to have the first openly gay Prem League footballer. Maybe even two.

Any views? I am sure there will be a range.

I am certain Palace have had many gay players. Like the other teams in the Prem I bet Palace already have at least two now. They just need the bravery to come out foe their own sake.

So what have we learned so far:

1 It doesn't matter if someone is openly gay, nobody cares
2 But we wouldn't want anyone to come out because they would get lots of stick
3 There is no need to consider whether we are gay friendly
4 If we were to try to make our club gay friendly then we wouldn't get any good players
5 We are already so gay friendly that we have a player who is gay in the first team
6 But nobody knows who it is - or at least nobody is saying
7 In any case we are all sure he wouldn't want to come out
8 And if he did we would have to immediately transfer him to Brighton
9 I must be gay

Did I get it all correct?

Doesn't anyone find it boring being so flaming predictable, can't we all try something a bit radical for a change?

Hand holding in the Holmesdale?

(sorry, couldnt resist it)

When Brighton were last at Selhurst, I had as always the pleasure of the train journey from London Bridge with them. As there were way more of them than us at Norwood Junction they got a a bit loud for a while. In a gap one of us shouted "We can see you holding hands" and even a couple of their lads laughed.

That's harmless fun. Brighton is the gay capital of England, they are from Brighton, therefore they are gay. Its a very mild insult along the lines of being the opposite of manly.

You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue
Yours sincerely
Mile Jedinak

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Part Time James 17 Jan 14 1.35pm
Quote Kermit8 at 17 Jan 2014 11.46am Quote Superfly at 17 Jan 2014 11.44am Quote Part Time James at 16 Jan 2014 12.50pm I'd be very surprised if TP's scouting network wasn't following the priority order this transfer window: 1) A gay player 2) A strong striker who can score goals 3) Bolster the defence with an experienced centre back He won't have overlooked the need for a gay player, trust me. It's about time the Football Manager franchise added players sxuality to their stats as well because the other day I wanted to find a player with at least 15 for heading, 14 for balance and ideally bi-sxual but the filters weren't there so I had to settle for someone with unknown s*xuality. I lost 6-0 in my next game. Superb One of the greatest posts I've seen in a long long time. Top skills. Sorry if that all sounds a bit woofy No, that doesn't. But the pm you just sent him asking to meet at London Bridge after work does. The trains are up the spout today. Otherwise I'd give anything a try once.
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Quote Kermit8 at 17 Jan 2014 11.46am

Quote Superfly at 17 Jan 2014 11.44am

Quote Part Time James at 16 Jan 2014 12.50pm

I'd be very surprised if TP's scouting network wasn't following the priority order this transfer window:

1) A gay player
2) A strong striker who can score goals
3) Bolster the defence with an experienced centre back

He won't have overlooked the need for a gay player, trust me.

Superb One of the greatest posts I've seen in a long long time. Top skills.

Sorry if that all sounds a bit woofy

No, that doesn't. But the pm you just sent him asking to meet at London Bridge after work does.

The trains are up the spout today. Otherwise I'd give anything a try once.

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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Jan 14 2.07pm
Quote Part Time James at 17 Jan 2014 1.35pm Quote Kermit8 at 17 Jan 2014 11.46am Quote Superfly at 17 Jan 2014 11.44am Quote Part Time James at 16 Jan 2014 12.50pm I'd be very surprised if TP's scouting network wasn't following the priority order this transfer window: 1) A gay player 2) A strong striker who can score goals 3) Bolster the defence with an experienced centre back He won't have overlooked the need for a gay player, trust me. It's about time the Football Manager franchise added players sxuality to their stats as well because the other day I wanted to find a player with at least 15 for heading, 14 for balance and ideally bi-sxual but the filters weren't there so I had to settle for someone with unknown s*xuality. I lost 6-0 in my next game. Superb One of the greatest posts I've seen in a long long time. Top skills. Sorry if that all sounds a bit woofy No, that doesn't. But the pm you just sent him asking to meet at London Bridge after work does. The trains are up the spout today. Otherwise I'd give anything a try once. Once you've had his knob covered with your plaque - you won't go back. Edited by Kermit8 (17 Jan 2014 2.07pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote Part Time James at 17 Jan 2014 1.35pm

Quote Kermit8 at 17 Jan 2014 11.46am

Quote Superfly at 17 Jan 2014 11.44am

Quote Part Time James at 16 Jan 2014 12.50pm

I'd be very surprised if TP's scouting network wasn't following the priority order this transfer window:

1) A gay player
2) A strong striker who can score goals
3) Bolster the defence with an experienced centre back

He won't have overlooked the need for a gay player, trust me.

Superb One of the greatest posts I've seen in a long long time. Top skills.

Sorry if that all sounds a bit woofy

No, that doesn't. But the pm you just sent him asking to meet at London Bridge after work does.

The trains are up the spout today. Otherwise I'd give anything a try once.

Once you've had his knob covered with your plaque - you won't go back.

Edited by Kermit8 (17 Jan 2014 2.07pm)

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