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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 07 Apr 14 12.27pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Three games in hand? The first is away to Spurs and I don't really fancy them getting anything there. The second one is away to Man City. Good luck with that. The third one I don't know. I have always had Sunderland as nailed on to go down and even when thinking they would stay up was fashionable with the pundits, as it was around Christmas, my mind didn't change. I think they, and Cardiff, are gone. The one that might turn it around is Fulham. If they beat Norwich on Saturday and with Norwich's run in then things get interesting. If Norwich win on Saturday, Fulham are down too in my book.

 


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View Happiness Stan's Profile Happiness Stan Flag Itchycoo Park 07 Apr 14 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Happiness Stan Add Happiness Stan as a friend

A lots been made of norwichs run in, however utd at old Trafford with their season dead, and the soft as s*** arsenal are both winnable games. They've gambled on a bounce from new management. Stranger things have happened.

 


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View Baldfella's Profile Baldfella Flag Wigan 07 Apr 14 1.10pm Send a Private Message to Baldfella Add Baldfella as a friend

Cardiff won't catch us !

Fulham lose to Norwich then they won't catch us !

Sunderland lose tonight and we beat Villa they won't catch us !

Simple really !

 

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Sunderland will do Spurs tonight.

 


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Quote sydtheeagle at 07 Apr 2014 12.27pm

Three games in hand? The first is away to Spurs and I don't really fancy them getting anything there. The second one is away to Man City. Good luck with that. The third one I don't know. I have always had Sunderland as nailed on to go down and even when thinking they would stay up was fashionable with the pundits, as it was around Christmas, my mind didn't change. I think they, and Cardiff, are gone. The one that might turn it around is Fulham. If they beat Norwich on Saturday and with Norwich's run in then things get interesting. If Norwich win on Saturday, Fulham are down too in my book.

I think we all knew the last game of the season was going to be pivotal but let's hope we are sorted by then and that only Fulham need to win it to stay up.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Apr 14 2.16pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote paperhat at 07 Apr 2014 1.12pm

Sunderland will do Spurs tonight.

Not sure about that.Lets hope not !
I really don't think that Tim Sherwood will be manager at the start of next season - same goes for Garry Monk at Swansea.


Edited by Willo (07 Apr 2014 2.21pm)

 

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View bodge's Profile bodge Flag 07 Apr 14 2.33pm Send a Private Message to bodge Add bodge as a friend

Spurs were so bad v Liverpool i would give Sunderland a chance they gave Liverpool a much tougher game.

 

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View Percy of Peckham's Profile Percy of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 07 Apr 14 2.56pm Send a Private Message to Percy of Peckham Add Percy of Peckham as a friend

Sunderland seem to play well in the second half but they take 45 mins to get going. They could beat Spurs if they play from the off!!!!

 


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View Seth's Profile Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 07 Apr 14 3.10pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

From today's Guardian:

Gus Poyet's fingers hovered over his computer keyboard but his heart refused to allow them to function. Sunderland's manager had been about to visit a Championship website but he could quite not bring himself to press the necessary buttons.

"I was tempted to click and then I said 'no'," revealed Poyet, whose struggling side visit his old employers Tottenham Hotspur on Monday night. "I was going to look at pre-season plans in the Championship. We've not put anything in place for that yet and I nearly looked. But if you're planning for games in the Championship you're expecting to be there. I'm not."

Such optimism is far from universal. After all Sunderland are bottom, seven points adrift of Norwich in 17th, and have not won a Premier League game since their 3-0 victory at Newcastle United on 1 February. There is also the Monday night problem; they have failed to win a match on one for 12 years.

Poyet is less concerned about that statistic than his team's decline in the post-Newcastle period. "I thought we'd clicked," said the Uruguayan, who knows his players must make the games they hold in hand on rivals count. "I thought 'that's it, yes, now everything's going to work out fine'. I was wrong."

He has had a bad week. By the time West Ham United won 2-1 on Wearside last Monday, Louw van Niekerk, a leading knee surgeon, had informed him he requires a cruciate ligament repair this summer which will necessitate Sunderland's manager supervising pre-season training on crutches.

"Just thinking about the recovery from the operation makes me feel sick," Poyet said. "I was just playing head tennis with the coaching staff and I went to turn and it just went. Now it's killing me. It's really bad."

In recent weeks far too many Sunderland players have seemed to be playing on one leg and, like a man trapped in a lift and pressing every available button, he has responded by switching from his tried and trusted 4-1-4-1 formation to experiment with new systems and personnel.

Variously playing five at the back, starting Adam Johnson on the bench and deploying both Liam Bridcutt and Lee Cattermole in central midfield have drawn criticism from supporters but the team's problems are somewhat deeper-rooted.

Multiple flaws and mental fragilities were masked by the run to Wembley and the Capital One Cup final which Sunderland lost to Manchester City but they are now being fully exposed in the most unflattering lights. "You can have an idea, a little doubt about a player and then you say 'yes I was right'," Poyet said.

Teams often dip after reaching League Cup finals and some Sunderland fans wonder whether it might have been better if Paolo Di Canio's then side had been thrown out of the competition after fielding an ineligible player in the second round victory over MK Dons.

Instead the minor clerical error which led to Ji Dong-won playing in four league fixtures and one cup game without international clearance led to the club paying the Premier League a six-figure fine and the matter being discreetly hushed up. It finally leaked last week, leaving Poyet – who was not on Wearside at the time – conceding he could have had no complaints had a points deduction been imposed.

That is not going to happen but this sorry episode seems emblematic of a season in which Poyet is being asked to mend the damage caused by the former director of football Roberto De Fanti's importation of 13 foreign players last summer and Di Canio's disastrous opening to the campaign. Certain problems with the dressing room's "old guard" do not help either.

Long-term, his patient possession-based philosophy promises to brighten Sunderland's horizon but, without victory at Spurs on Monday night , Poyet will soon be clicking on to that Championship website.

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Apr 14 3.47pm

Quote paperhat at 07 Apr 2014 1.12pm

Sunderland will do Spurs tonight.

They've never won a monday night game, on a disaster run of form, can't score goals, struggle to not conceed them and have an almost impossible list of games in hand.

So, yeah, knowing football, they'll win 3-0 tonight.


 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Apr 14 6.52pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Quote Willo at 07 Apr 2014 2.16pm

I really don't think that Tim Sherwood will be manager at the start of next season

Edited by Willo (07 Apr 2014 2.21pm)

I have just seen 'Sky Sports News' - Looks like I was right about Sherwood !


 

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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 07 Apr 14 7.00pm

Quote dingdong at 07 Apr 2014 12.22pm

were safe! although 3 more points from our remaining games would be good!

Take a look and see how many team have stayed up on 34 points. Newcastle finished 4th bottom last years with 39. That is a more realistic total for safety.

 


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