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 Hrolf The Ganger  14 Feb 17 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Alas powers beyond my control render me unable to respond directly to Matthew. But it's worth pointing out to you at least that this is a thread about ukip and Paul Nuttall so to point to what other candidates may or may not have said is whataboutery. s***e debating technique. No, I believe that it is fair game to make a comparison with other politicians of other parties if we are talking about integrity.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Feb 17 9.33pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No, I believe that it is fair game to make a comparison with other politicians of other parties if we are talking about integrity. To me that is tantamount to excusing it. Regardless of who does it, they should be called out. You haven't expressed an opinion on the UKIP leaders 'alternative truths' I note, hence my suspicion of whataboutery.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 14 Feb 17 10.06pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
To me that is tantamount to excusing it. Regardless of who does it, they should be called out. You haven't expressed an opinion on the UKIP leaders 'alternative truths' I note, hence my suspicion of whataboutery. To focus on UKIP in this context is quite laughable and transparently biased.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Feb 17 10.21pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
To focus on UKIP in this context is quite laughable and transparently biased. This context? A UKIP thread! Can pointing out that the leader of what is now a major party has been lying be unbiased? You try and brush away the issue that Paul Nuttall is a lying charlatan all you like, but it doesn't change the fact it's true.
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| Dweeb East London 15 Feb 17 9.21am |
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Surely the point is that UKIP is a crypto-fascist party, now whether everyone who votes for them realises that is another matter.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 15 Feb 17 9.23am |
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Originally posted by Dweeb
Surely the point is that UKIP is a crypto-fascist party, now whether everyone who votes for them realises that is another matter. Does that make Corbyn's Labour Party a crypto-communist party? Now, whether everyone who votes for them realises that is another matter.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 15 Feb 17 11.47am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
This context? A UKIP thread! Can pointing out that the leader of what is now a major party has been lying be unbiased? You try and brush away the issue that Paul Nuttall is a lying charlatan all you like, but it doesn't change the fact it's true. Ha ha. A UKIP thread started by you with the sole intention of decrying UKIP. Nick, you are gift that keeps giving.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 15 Feb 17 11.50am |
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Originally posted by Dweeb
Surely the point is that UKIP is a crypto-fascist party, now whether everyone who votes for them realises that is another matter. It's not the point at all. This is about politicians lie shock. It is barrel scraping garbage by Gusset in his desperate attempt to promote Labour and decry UKIP. A party who will be eating up Labour votes by the thousand in the By Elections and he knows it.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Feb 17 11.52am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Ha ha. A UKIP thread started by you with the sole intention of decrying UKIP. Nick, you are gift that keeps giving. Hrolf stop making it about me. You are deflecting and running away from the topic at hand. What do you think about UKIP Paul Nuttall being found to be a liar and charlatan? (challenge - don't mention any other party or me in your answer) Edited by nickgusset (15 Feb 2017 11.52am)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 15 Feb 17 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Hrolf stop making it about me. You are deflecting and running away from the topic at hand. What do you think about UKIP Paul Nuttall being found to be a liar and charlatan? (challenge - don't mention any other party or me in your answer) Edited by nickgusset (15 Feb 2017 11.52am) But this thread is all about you. Labour is full of lying b******s as is every other party. That is what politics is and you know it full well.
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| matt_himself Matataland 15 Feb 17 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by Dweeb
Surely the point is that UKIP is a crypto-fascist party, now whether everyone who votes for them realises that is another matter. That is simply not true. It is easy for UKIP's opponents to hide behind the labelling of them as 'racist' or 'fascist'. It helps UKIP's opponents to justify why they are losing votes to UKIP rather than to face up to the truth that their agenda does not resonate with their core support anymore. These people don't want to listen to the those whose support they need, they wish to tell their support how to think. And therein lies the problem for them.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Feb 17 12.18pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But this thread is all about you. Labour is full of lying b******s as is every other party. That is what politics is and you know it full well. I take it then that you either a) have a reason for not wishing to share your views about UKIP leader Paul Nutall or b) have no opinion.
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