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View Proper_Gander's Profile Proper_Gander Flag Anerley 13 May 14 8.58am Send a Private Message to Proper_Gander Add Proper_Gander as a friend

Quote ADW1988 at 13 May 2014 8.49am

Pellegrini should have been Prem Manager of Year and Pulis LMA overall.

It's crazy Rogers got anywhere near? Won nothing and took a side with Gerrard, Suarez etc up 5 places.. Sorry it just seems the whole world owe Liverpool something!!

1st year in Prem and Pellegrini wins 2 domestic cups is an achievement but overlooked...
Pulis, if we'd have finished 17th still should have won it, but 11th and 12 points clear is an achievement.
Bottling it like Roger's team isn't an achievement. End of.

Vile club for me

Edited by ADW1988 (13 May 2014 8.50am)


You could say he deserves it for delivering some of the most entertaining games all season. In that respect, he's the premier league manager of the season.

Even if he did throw away the title by not taking the draw against Mourinho, and keeping a 0-3 lead for 10 minutes against a team who were relegation favourites by a mile at the beginning of the season.

 

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View Eagle_SA's Profile Eagle_SA Flag Just outside Cape Town 13 May 14 9.00am Send a Private Message to Eagle_SA Add Eagle_SA as a friend

Quote Seth at 13 May 2014 12.49am

Quote Alex55 at 13 May 2014 12.41am

Scousers a bit put out when they thought TP had won it.

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Some people really have an ingrained stereotypical view of Pulis don't they?

Well, we don't mind. We've been sticking it to the big teams and their fancy passing ways for years now. We will carry on defying the bookies and the pundits by kicking a bit of arse and winning quite a few football matches, thank you very much.

Bring it on

This tweet made me laugh: "Taking no credit away from Pulis but Rodgers deserves it. Challenged for the title all year with a tiny squad and finished 2nd. Mad."

Some of them really are deluded. Liverpool spent around £300m in transfers & wages compared to our measly (not even)£60m.

Brenda took them from 7th to 2nd, TP took us from bottom to 11th. A feat never previously achieved by any manager. Previously the highest a change of manager had managed to take a team was 3 places above where he found them. TP took us up 9 places!

However, as Dan Theolmesdaleroad said: "The remarkable way in which he skilfully guided them from 1st place to 2nd in only a couple of weeks was truly a joy to behold." - Maybe it was this that won Brenda his award.

 


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Quote Eagle_SA at 13 May 2014 9.00am

Brenda took them from 7th to 2nd, TP took us from bottom to 11th. A feat never previously achieved by any manager. Previously the highest a change of manager had managed to take a team was 3 places above where he found them. TP took us up 9 places!

There may well have been far fewer points dividing the teams in the bottom half of the table until the last couple of weeks as I seem to recall that the points difference between the team in 10th place and the relegation zone was only a few points at one stage.

Whilst it may well be true that "Previously the highest a change of manager had managed to take a team was 3 places above where he found them" let's not forget that Pulis wasn't the only manager to break that record as Gus Poyet did it too

 

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Plane Flag Bromley 13 May 14 9.34am

Quote Ian J at 13 May 2014 9.21am

Quote Eagle_SA at 13 May 2014 9.00am

Brenda took them from 7th to 2nd, TP took us from bottom to 11th. A feat never previously achieved by any manager. Previously the highest a change of manager had managed to take a team was 3 places above where he found them. TP took us up 9 places!

There may well have been far fewer points dividing the teams in the bottom half of the table until the last couple of weeks as I seem to recall that the points difference between the team in 10th place and the relegation zone was only a few points at one stage.

Whilst it may well be true that "Previously the highest a change of manager had managed to take a team was 3 places above where he found them" let's not forget that Pulis wasn't the only manager to break that record as Gus Poyet did it too


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 13 May 14 9.56am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Well, I think it was either one or the other; and Liverpool have played the most exciting football in this division. Very easy on the eye. To get 2nd by playing lovely flamboyant football [other than e.g. the score once and then park the bus Chelsea way] deserved the big prize.

Pulis was the Prems MOTY - also deserved for reasons given by others.

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 13 May 14 10.23am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Rogers deserves it on what basis? He took a club with some very good players and not remotely afraid of spending big money into the top four from an underachieving seventh place the previous season, against a group of teams who all had the major distraction of Europe while Rogers' team had no distractions at all. Furthermore, with that free run Rogers failed to fully capitalise by winning the Premiership entirely due to his own shortcomings as a manager, through both the failure to recruit adequate central defenders in the transfer market or to play tactically intelligent football in the two crunch games at the end of the season, a result in either of which likely would have given them the title. Basically, Rogers put out a team that was pleasing on the eye and did well, but hardly reflected managerial brilliance. Bottom line: Pellegrini, Pulis, and Poyet all had better claims than Rodgers to the award and Mourinho and Martinez arguably did.

 


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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 13 May 14 10.33am Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

We've been witnesses to the sickly media Liverpool love-in all season, and it's no surprise that Rodgers wasn't allowed to get away without being fawned upon one last time.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 13 May 14 10.33am

Rogers has done well, but I think his success is much more a reflection of how poorly preceeding managers had done with Liverpool, and he did have several years to achieve this. Liverpools achievements aren't quite as phenominal as they appear at first sight, the success of Sturridge and Suraz up front distract from the fact that the team were incompetant in defence. For every two goals they scored, Liverpool conceeded 1.

Liverpool are a club that should be competing for champions league and title season on season. That they weren't was down to p*ss poor managers before Rodgers came in. He steadied the ship, rebuilt it and got Liverpool back to the position they should have been in.

Personally, Pulis deserved the LMA Manager of the Year and Poyet the Premier League Manager of the year, simply because both have achieved not only against expectation, but achieved almost miraculous transformations of teams.

Managers of the season for me, in order.

Pulis
Poyet
Martinez (His achievements at Everton eclipse those of Liverpool).
Rogers / Pelligrini

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 13 May 14 10.38am

Quote silvertop at 13 May 2014 9.56am

Well, I think it was either one or the other; and Liverpool have played the most exciting football in this division. Very easy on the eye. To get 2nd by playing lovely flamboyant football [other than e.g. the score once and then park the bus Chelsea way] deserved the big prize.

Pulis was the Prems MOTY - also deserved for reasons given by others.

If you can't defend, and your midfield cannot close off games, then you're only playing 33% of the football well. Defensively liverpool were shocking, and outside of Coutino and Gerrard their midfield was very average.

Football isn't about scoring goals, its about not conceeding them. Rogers inability to shore up his midfield and defence speak of a 'one trick pony' rather than a great manager.

By the time the premiership finished, we were increasingly successful in all aspects of the game.


 


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Plane Flag Bromley 13 May 14 10.39am

Quote silvertop at 13 May 2014 9.56am

Well, I think it was either one or the other; and Liverpool have played the most exciting football in this division. Very easy on the eye. To get 2nd by playing lovely flamboyant football [other than e.g. the score once and then park the bus Chelsea way] deserved the big prize.

Pulis was the Prems MOTY - also deserved for reasons given by others.


On that basis, give it to Pellegrini, as he actually won something, City's football is even easier on the eye and his defenders knew how to defend.

 

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View adrian b's Profile adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 13 May 14 12.16pm Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

TP has done much the hardest job in the prem this year. Wetspam done well, but finished lower, Hull had a head start. Any of the top teams have only done as expected with boundless cheque books and unchallengeable spending power. May even be found to be illegal. From England's position , they have let us down, having bloodied only one (!) England qualified player in this whole season (Wilson, Manure). If the manager of the season is selected from this bunch of underachieving millionairs, then England's failure in the World Cup will be easily explained.

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 13 May 14 12.21pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

I blame James Beattie. Pulis was starting with a deficit.

Edited by Stuk (13 May 2014 12.22pm)

 


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