Yeah but you also shouldn't be surprised if people get really f**ked off either - Its a symbol, and symbols have profound effects on people. Its a shame because its one of the most beautiful flags ever produced.

So should the flag waver at Selhurst also embroider a caveat for using the flag on a separate flag so that those watching the mighty Palace on the telly don't think we are pro slavery?

Difficult to do if you are in say, Detroit!

What a ridiculous comment from someone with no knowledge of history.

Im not a fan of liberals and generally am far from PC but that flag has such appalling conotations that it shouldnt be glossed over as a "personal choice" issue.

Is it a fair one to wave a Swastika if, along the lines of what you said, someone believed in a Austria German union but wasnt really a fan of the Holocaust?

As someone who has served alongside many Americans, there is a lot of denial over how bad the lot of Black people was in the US, especially during the time of slavery.

We should not welcome that kind of symbolism at Selhurst. Millwall, Chelsea, Leeds, Rangers etc can have it.

Edited by Lombardos barber (13 Jul 2014 8.34pm)

Oh dear.

Yeah, no knowledge of history mate. Strange how I've taught the subject in schools isn't it.

Did you read the series of posts? Or is your knee jerking?

The Swastika doesn't represent a German/Austria union by the way. It represents either the Nazis, modern far right groups by chosen association or as an ancient symbol sometimes used by several different cultures. The WW2 union between German and Austria is not its purpose.

That is an action the Nazis took, not the purpose of the flag.

The confederate flag does represent a union of southern states.....That's its original meaning and purpose. As that union was defeated in the civil war its usage by people now falls under several different guises.

So your analogy is wrong.....In fact it's quite annoying.

The confederate flag has been used by people who aren't racists and by those that are....It is down to context. The fact that some people can't move away from its association with slavery is their problem.

Britain practiced slavery under the union jack flag.....Should we associate that? Oh and the Dutch flag and so on.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2014 10.48pm)

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2014 10.52pm)

Oh dear.

Yeah, no knowledge of history mate. Strange how I've taught the subject in schools isn't it.

Did you read the series of posts? Or is your knee jerking?

The Swastika doesn't represent a German/Austria union by the way. It represents either the Nazis, modern far right groups by chosen association or as an ancient symbol sometimes used by several different cultures. The WW2 union between German and Austria is not its purpose.

That is an action the Nazis took, not the purpose of the flag.

The confederate flag does represent a union of southern states.....That's its original meaning and purpose. As that union was defeated in the civil war its usage by people now falls under several different guises.

So your analogy is wrong.....In fact it's quite annoying.

The confederate flag has been used by people who aren't racists and by those that are....It is down to context. The fact that some people can't move away from its association with slavery is their problem.

Britain practiced slavery under the union jack flag.....Should we associate that? Oh and the Dutch flag and so on.

It's a sodding flag....And people use it to mean what they want it to mean......A lot of Americans in the south use it to distance themselves from the US government.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2014 10.53pm)