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The bearded tramp had a dig at the PM at questions for the amount of funding being made available for grammar schools, Much to the delight of the shadow home secretary Diane (pig in knickers) Abbott, calling it a divisive policy, and that " he wanted a staircase for all, not a ladder for a few".

Him and truffle pig were of course put immediately back in their box when the PM pointed out HE himself went to one, as did one of the snouted ones offspring.

"Typical labour, taking up the advantage, then pulling up the ladder behind them."

If you can't win a war of words over an education system that is in total melt down then please just fcuk off you useless article.

 


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Originally posted by dannyh

The bearded tramp had a dig at the PM at questions for the amount of funding being made available for grammar schools, Much to the delight of the shadow home secretary Diane (pig in knickers) Abbott, calling it a divisive policy, and that " he wanted a staircase for all, not a ladder for a few".

Him and truffle pig were of course put immediately back in their box when the PM pointed out HE himself went to one, as did one of the snouted ones offspring.

"Typical labour, taking up the advantage, then pulling up the ladder behind them."

If you can't win a war of words over an education system that is in total melt down then please just fcuk off you useless article.

Far be it from me to point out but the grammar system (in boroughs which have it) IS accessible for all . Costs nothing to enter your child for the exam. The resources can all be found online free of charge , yes paying a tutor obviously helps however the children who have been coached heavily often struggle once at grammar school and much of it comes down to a natural ability or aptitude.

Quite why the Labour party needs to object at every turn (in my eyes for the sake of disagreeing) is beyond me.

 


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Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Far be it from me to point out but the grammar system (in boroughs which have it) IS accessible for all . Costs nothing to enter your child for the exam. The resources can all be found online free of charge , yes paying a tutor obviously helps however the children who have been coached heavily often struggle once at grammar school and much of it comes down to a natural ability or aptitude.

Quite why the Labour party needs to object at every turn (in my eyes for the sake of disagreeing) is beyond me.

Why? Because grammar schools have been proven rather than increasing social mobility to prevent it. Because they have been shown to contribute to an overall decline in standards. Because all the evidence says that grammar schools result in the poor being worse off.

Grammar schools are good for the select few that get in. For everyone else they are $hit.

Should also be said that Corbyn effectively ended his marriage because of a dispute over sending their kid to a grammar school. He wanted his kid to go to the local comp and his missus said no.

Look at every piece of educational research out there and it confirms that grammar schools are a bad idea.


Edited by OknotOK (22 Mar 2017 4.13pm)

 


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Originally posted by OknotOK

Why? Because grammar schools have been proven rather than increasing social mobility to prevent it. Because they have been shown to contribute to an overall decline in standards. Because all the evidence says that grammar schools result in the poor being worse off.

Grammar schools are good for the select few that get in. For everyone else they are $hit.

Should also be said that Corbyn effectively ended his marriage because of a dispute over sending their kid to a grammar school. He wanted his kid to go to the local comp and his missus said no.

Look at every piece of educational research out there and it confirms that grammar schools are a bad idea.


Edited by OknotOK (22 Mar 2017 4.13pm)

Why not improve all schools rather than just a gimmick of pandering to Grammar schools who do no better than comprehensives for adding value.

 

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Originally posted by OknotOK

Why? Because grammar schools have been proven rather than increasing social mobility to prevent it. Because they have been shown to contribute to an overall decline in standards. Because all the evidence says that grammar schools result in the poor being worse off.

Grammar schools are good for the select few that get in. For everyone else they are $hit.

Should also be said that Corbyn effectively ended his marriage because of a dispute over sending their kid to a grammar school. He wanted his kid to go to the local comp and his missus said no.

Look at every piece of educational research out there and it confirms that grammar schools are a bad idea.


Edited by OknotOK (22 Mar 2017 4.13pm)

I agree to the point that it's feels as though your child is being thrown on the educational scrap heap to a degree by being deemed non selective. We have just been through this whole process a few months ago and my son didn't pass his 11+ . I do agree the non selective schools should be sorted out and brought up to a better standard. I agree 100% BUT I have never made any secret of the fact that had my son passed he would have gone to grammar school in a heart beat. The results of those schools speak for themselves where I live. They are head and shoulders above the state sector. My other children will all be put through the selection system and should any of the others pass they will be educated at such a school .

I did well at school in the state sector myself 1 A*, 3A , 6B, 2x c grade at gcse and 2 a and 1 b at A level. I wish I had the opportunity to have gone to grammar school. I believe I would have done even better (croydon obviously didn't and still doesn't have the 11 plus)

 


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Originally posted by Michaelawt85

I agree to the point that it's feels as though your child is being thrown on the educational scrap heap to a degree by being deemed non selective. We have just been through this whole process a few months ago and my son didn't pass his 11+ . I do agree the non selective schools should be sorted out and brought up to a better standard. I agree 100% BUT I have never made any secret of the fact that had my son passed he would have gone to grammar school in a heart beat. The results of those schools speak for themselves where I live. They are head and shoulders above the state sector. My other children will all be put through the selection system and should any of the others pass they will be educated at such a school .

I did well at school in the state sector myself 1 A*, 3A , 6B, 2x c grade at gcse and 2 a and 1 b at A level. I wish I had the opportunity to have gone to grammar school. I believe I would have done even better (croydon obviously didn't and still doesn't have the 11 plus)

And that's fine for you as an individual looking after your individual child.

But for the leader of the opposition, he should rightly oppose the reintroduction of an institution which has been proven time and time again to be detrimental to the vast vast majority of the population.

So that's why he he has to object at every turn. Well done him for doing so.

As Sedlescombe said, focus should be on improving standards across the state sector rather than going contrary to every single piece of research for nothing other than to pander to a certain element of the electorate.

Edited by OknotOK (22 Mar 2017 5.00pm)

 


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