Well, the out of control spending is a lie and the thing about them being in 'hoc' to the unions is a falsehood. The party of 'mass immigration' is simply an overexageration so 2/3 i'm afraid. I'm sure that no amount of evidence or reasoned arguments could change your narrow-minded, ignorant, nationalistic views. I salute you sir.

Edited by ghosteagle (30 Jul 2015 5.03pm)

Firstly, i would advise you to seek medical help for your maniacal laugh which explains many of your posts.
Secondly, yes the financial meltdown began in america with the flood of irresponsible mortgage lending in America. Congrats, that’s the first bit of truth you've posted all day, give yourself a pat on the back.
Thirdly, no-one abandoned the borders, that is unfortunately poppycock.
The fact that you may have served in the armed forces (i was under the impression that there was some kind of psychological test to weed out the nutters?) doesn't stop you being nationalistic, ignorant and narrow minded. I also have travelled and seen a great deal of the world and experienced many different cultures, but unlike you i learnt from my experiences and used them to build a rational world view.
As for the 'keyboard warrior', only one of us is claiming to be from the army and laughing insanely. I pray that you receive the enlightenment that you so desperately need.

Well, the out of control spending is a lie and the thing about them being in 'hoc' to the unions is a falsehood. The party of 'mass immigration' is simply an overexageration so 2/3 i'm afraid. I'm sure that no amount of evidence or reasoned arguments could change your narrow-minded, ignorant, nationalistic views. I salute you sir.

Edited by ghosteagle (30 Jul 2015 5.03pm)

The financial crisis was caused by the banking collapse. Brown was still spending far too much - and you can argue that be positioned the economy in such a way that it couldn't take the shock - but the crisis in the economy was caused by the banks.

That crisis did begin in the US - it was caused by US banks giving mortgages to people with no hope of repaying them. The likes of JPMorgan and Lehmans packaged those loans up and sold them to the market. When those defaulted the system collapsed and banks stopped lending to each other - which resulted in the first UK domino to fall because Northern Rock were criminally dependant on short term funding from the money markets.

Browns real crime was not regulating the banks though it should be noted Osborne wanted less regulation and UKIP seemingly none at all. Perhaps because Forage got rich in helping betting against Sterling when it was forced out of the ERM.

The only people with clean hands from this period were the Liberal Democrats

Firstly, i would advise you to seek medical help for your maniacal laugh which explains many of your posts.
Secondly, yes the financial meltdown began in america with the flood of irresponsible mortgage lending by the banks. Congrats, that’s the first bit of truth you've posted all day, give yourself a pat on the back.
Thirdly, no-one abandoned the borders, that is unfortunately poppycock.
The fact that you may have served in the armed forces (i was under the impression that there was some kind of psychological test to weed out the nutters?) doesn't stop you being nationalistic, ignorant and narrow minded. I also have travelled and seen a great deal of the world and experienced many different cultures, but unlike you i learnt from my experiences and used them to build a rational world view.
As for the 'keyboard warrior', only one of us is claiming to be from the army and laughing insanely. I pray that you receive the enlightenment that you so desperately need.

Edited by ghosteagle (30 Jul 2015 5.51pm)

As i said, the man claims to have served his country for 8 years but then appears to know nothing about this country or it's recent history. Also, he only mentions his 'service' once he realises that his arguments have been deconstructed. And finally, i don't see what relevance serving has to the argument we were having. Even if true it’s no replacement for logic and reason. And yes, even in real life i argue using the facts.