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serial thriller The Promised Land 11 Oct 15 5.11pm
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Two kids shot dead by Israeli soldiers today.

Here we go again.

And where are the brave Palestinian leaders who direct and incite the kids into throwing stones and Molotov cocktails at IDF soldiers, who in turn fire into crowds who are physically threatening them?

They are hidden in areas populated by ordinary people, knowing that Israeli bombs aimed at them will slaughter their own. They are no doubt on the phone to Riyadh and Doha, arranging more money to be sent to them to continue the 'struggle'.

Blaming Israel for this is too simplistic and wrong. The Palestinian leaders need to be held up for scrutiny.

During the last siege of Gaza, Amnesty international did a month long investigation and found no evidence at all of human shielding being used. It is a complete myth created by a state seeking moral justification for bombing children.

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Plenty of evidence to the contrary, including video footage.

And of course, Amnesty doesn't have a leftist agenda, does it?

Wow the the bottom link is very interesting

It is, well done for reading it, and it is put on here because there needs to be balance in the debate and not accept that one side is right and the other wrong.

I think that the Palestinian leadership are deplorable, sub human scum. I also think there are elements of the IDF who use unnecessary force.

I am very surprised you have put a link telling the story of how Israeli soldiers were using Palestinians as human shields but bravo.

I suspect he was very surprised too, haha.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Oct 15 6.15pm
Quote matt_himself at 11 Oct 2015 5.11pm Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 2.55pm Quote matt_himself at 11 Oct 2015 2.08pm Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 1.30pm 551 children were killed including those playing on the beach by the IDF during the last flare up but I am not sure how many of them were involved in rocket launches. How many were brainwashed or forced into throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails in a group of people by the Palestinian hierarchy, thus meaning that they would be mown down when the IDF defend themselves? There is clearly more to this than what you are saying. Even if there is "more" do you never ask yourself what kind of heavily tooled up 'soldier' would think it is acceptable to slot a thirteen year old kid between the eyes for throwing stones at him, and how he himself might have been brainwashed and brutalised by his own side in order for their iniquitous agenda to be successful? A pebble v an Uzi. Not really a fair fight is it? Let's leave it there. You are too bent in one direction to consider debate, just push on which emotive discourse to pursue your own, blinkered world view. A pathetic and weak cop out if I may say so. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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551 children were killed including those playing on the beach by the IDF during the last flare up but I am not sure how many of them were involved in rocket launches.

How many were brainwashed or forced into throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails in a group of people by the Palestinian hierarchy, thus meaning that they would be mown down when the IDF defend themselves?

There is clearly more to this than what you are saying.

Even if there is "more" do you never ask yourself what kind of heavily tooled up 'soldier' would think it is acceptable to slot a thirteen year old kid between the eyes for throwing stones at him, and how he himself might have been brainwashed and brutalised by his own side in order for their iniquitous agenda to be successful?

A pebble v an Uzi. Not really a fair fight is it?

Let's leave it there. You are too bent in one direction to consider debate, just push on which emotive discourse to pursue your own, blinkered world view.

A pathetic and weak cop out if I may say so.

Big chest and massive boobs

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matt_himself Matataland 12 Oct 15 4.45am
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551 children were killed including those playing on the beach by the IDF during the last flare up but I am not sure how many of them were involved in rocket launches.

There is clearly more to this than what you are saying.

A pebble v an Uzi. Not really a fair fight is it?

Let's leave it there. You are too bent in one direction to consider debate, just push on which emotive discourse to pursue your own, blinkered world view.

A pathetic and weak cop out if I may say so.

It's an acceptance that there is no point carrying on with you, as you are clearly living in a bubble which is detached from reality and is, actually, quite damaging for you. You have done some bizarre things in he name of 'debate', from creating an 'evanlegical mate' to defend your hatred of Christians to labelling everyone who has used a Costa as 'w***ers' to defend your views on global companies, and I really should have thought twice before engaging with you and your myopic World view.

I apologise for engaging with you and won't do it again. There seems to be little point.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Ujj Quote matt_himself at 12 Oct 2015 4.45am Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 6.15pm Quote matt_himself at 11 Oct 2015 5.11pm Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 2.55pm Quote matt_himself at 11 Oct 2015 2.08pm Quote Kermit8 at 11 Oct 2015 1.30pm 551 children were killed including those playing on the beach by the IDF during the last flare up but I am not sure how many of them were involved in rocket launches. How many were brainwashed or forced into throwing rocks and Molotov cocktails in a group of people by the Palestinian hierarchy, thus meaning that they would be mown down when the IDF defend themselves? There is clearly more to this than what you are saying. Even if there is "more" do you never ask yourself what kind of heavily tooled up 'soldier' would think it is acceptable to slot a thirteen year old kid between the eyes for throwing stones at him, and how he himself might have been brainwashed and brutalised by his own side in order for their iniquitous agenda to be successful? A pebble v an Uzi. Not really a fair fight is it? Let's leave it there. You are too bent in one direction to consider debate, just push on which emotive discourse to pursue your own, blinkered world view. A pathetic and weak cop out if I may say so. It's an acceptance that there is no point carrying on with you, as you are clearly living in a bubble which is detached from reality and is, actually, quite damaging for you. You have done some bizarre things in he name of 'debate', from creating an 'evanlegical mate' to defend your hatred of Christians to labelling everyone who has used a Costa as 'w***ers' to defend your views on global companies, and I really should have thought twice before engaging with you and your myopic World view. I apologise for engaging with you and won't do it again. There seems to be little point. Checkmate. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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551 children were killed including those playing on the beach by the IDF during the last flare up but I am not sure how many of them were involved in rocket launches.

There is clearly more to this than what you are saying.

A pebble v an Uzi. Not really a fair fight is it?

Let's leave it there. You are too bent in one direction to consider debate, just push on which emotive discourse to pursue your own, blinkered world view.

A pathetic and weak cop out if I may say so.

I apologise for engaging with you and won't do it again. There seems to be little point.

Checkmate.

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Quote leifandersonshair at 11 Oct 2015 4.34pm Both sides are trapped in a circle of violence, which neither side seems particularly interested in ending. Israel cracks down on Palestinian civilians (normally), be it through tightening sanctions, or just a flashpoint of a shooting etc, Hamas fire dozens of rockets and kill a few dozen Israeli civilians, IDF goes in heavy handed and kills hundreds of civilians (plus maybe a few militants). Uneasy 'peace' for a few months, then rinse and repeat. Palestinians have nowhere to go (literally), and keep getting squeezed, and terrorist actions are their only way of fighting back. Israel (not unreasonably) won't commit to a Palestinian state while Hamas keeps lobbing rockets at them. QED. They also wouldn't commit to a Palestine state before Hamas, when it was Fatah or when it was the PLO etc and so on and so forth. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Both sides are trapped in a circle of violence, which neither side seems particularly interested in ending.

Israel cracks down on Palestinian civilians (normally), be it through tightening sanctions, or just a flashpoint of a shooting etc, Hamas fire dozens of rockets and kill a few dozen Israeli civilians, IDF goes in heavy handed and kills hundreds of civilians (plus maybe a few militants). Uneasy 'peace' for a few months, then rinse and repeat.

Palestinians have nowhere to go (literally), and keep getting squeezed, and terrorist actions are their only way of fighting back. Israel (not unreasonably) won't commit to a Palestinian state while Hamas keeps lobbing rockets at them. QED.

They also wouldn't commit to a Palestine state before Hamas, when it was Fatah or when it was the PLO etc and so on and so forth.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Two kids shot dead by Israeli soldiers today.

Here we go again.

Blaming Israel for this is too simplistic and wrong. The Palestinian leaders need to be held up for scrutiny.

[Link]

Plenty of evidence to the contrary, including video footage.

And of course, Amnesty doesn't have a leftist agenda, does it?

Wow the the bottom link is very interesting

It is, well done for reading it, and it is put on here because there needs to be balance in the debate and not accept that one side is right and the other wrong.

I think that the Palestinian leadership are deplorable, sub human scum. I also think there are elements of the IDF who use unnecessary force.

I am very surprised you have put a link telling the story of how Israeli soldiers were using Palestinians as human shields but bravo.

Matt is well known for his balanced views on Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

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Oliver Bodega Bay 12 Oct 15 9.51am
Quote leifandersonshair at 11 Oct 2015 4.34pm Both sides are trapped in a circle of violence, which neither side seems particularly interested in ending. Israel cracks down on Palestinian civilians (normally), be it through tightening sanctions, or just a flashpoint of a shooting etc, Hamas fire dozens of rockets and kill a few dozen Israeli civilians, IDF goes in heavy handed and kills hundreds of civilians (plus maybe a few militants). Uneasy 'peace' for a few months, then rinse and repeat. Palestinians have nowhere to go (literally), and keep getting squeezed, and terrorist actions are their only way of fighting back. Israel (not unreasonably) won't commit to a Palestinian state while Hamas keeps lobbing rockets at them. QED. Not that I’m condoning it but they killed a "few dozen" or to be precise 33 (6 of these being Palestinians) in 15 years. By the way Amnesty International defines these rocket attacks as war crimes. I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.
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Both sides are trapped in a circle of violence, which neither side seems particularly interested in ending.

Israel cracks down on Palestinian civilians (normally), be it through tightening sanctions, or just a flashpoint of a shooting etc, Hamas fire dozens of rockets and kill a few dozen Israeli civilians, IDF goes in heavy handed and kills hundreds of civilians (plus maybe a few militants). Uneasy 'peace' for a few months, then rinse and repeat.

Not that I’m condoning it but they killed a "few dozen" or to be precise 33 (6 of these being Palestinians) in 15 years. By the way Amnesty International defines these rocket attacks as war crimes.

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Two kids shot dead by Israeli soldiers today.

Here we go again.

Blaming Israel for this is too simplistic and wrong. The Palestinian leaders need to be held up for scrutiny.

[Link]

Plenty of evidence to the contrary, including video footage.

And of course, Amnesty doesn't have a leftist agenda, does it?

Wow the the bottom link is very interesting

It is, well done for reading it, and it is put on here because there needs to be balance in the debate and not accept that one side is right and the other wrong.

I think that the Palestinian leadership are deplorable, sub human scum. I also think there are elements of the IDF who use unnecessary force.

I am very surprised you have put a link telling the story of how Israeli soldiers were using Palestinians as human shields but bravo.

Matt is well known for his balanced views on Israeli-Palestinian conflict

It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.

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Two kids shot dead by Israeli soldiers today.

Here we go again.

Blaming Israel for this is too simplistic and wrong. The Palestinian leaders need to be held up for scrutiny.

And Amnesty International had no political agenda that they were working to?

Of course they found no evidence.... they weren't looking for any!

Please tell us what Amnesty's agenda is Hoof, I was clearly of the mistaken belief that they were a non-partisan charity!

You won't find many right wing thinking people affiliated to them Serial.

Right wingers not caring about others shocker!

Au Contraire Nickle-arse.......

I actually do care about others, but in this case it's the Israelis/Jewish people.

Just in case any body forgot or wasn't paying attention in History classes at school, the Jews were treated pretty badly from about 1930 to 1945 by Hitler and the Nazis (and probably Stalin and his regime).

The state of Israel was created to give the Jewish people a "spiritual home" and universal agreement to this creation was sanctioned by the UN.

Since it's creation, neighbouring Arab countries have tried to wage war with Israel, but so far have got a bloody nose.

Bearing in mind the treatment Jews have experienced since 1930 is it any wonder that they are fed up with Arab aggression, do not trust Arabs and will not rule out any measures to protect their borders and population.

The Palestinians are just sh1t-stirring and deserve all the retaliation that they get from Israel when it is always them that breaks the ceasefires.

Did the History you studied in school start in 1930 and was taught by ex member of Irgun

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Quote Oliver at 12 Oct 2015 10.47am Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 Oct 2015 3.44pm Quote nickgusset at 11 Oct 2015 11.45am Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 Oct 2015 11.41am Quote serial thriller at 11 Oct 2015 11.37am Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 Oct 2015 11.29am Quote serial thriller at 11 Oct 2015 11.18am Quote matt_himself at 11 Oct 2015 7.47am Quote Kermit8 at 10 Oct 2015 10.52pm Two kids shot dead by Israeli soldiers today. Here we go again. And where are the brave Palestinian leaders who direct and incite the kids into throwing stones and Molotov cocktails at IDF soldiers, who in turn fire into crowds who are physically threatening them? They are hidden in areas populated by ordinary people, knowing that Israeli bombs aimed at them will slaughter their own. They are no doubt on the phone to Riyadh and Doha, arranging more money to be sent to them to continue the 'struggle'. Blaming Israel for this is too simplistic and wrong. The Palestinian leaders need to be held up for scrutiny. During the last siege of Gaza, Amnesty international did a month long investigation and found no evidence at all of human shielding being used. It is a complete myth created by a state seeking moral justification for bombing children. And Amnesty International had no political agenda that they were working to? Of course they found no evidence.... they weren't looking for any! Please tell us what Amnesty's agenda is Hoof, I was clearly of the mistaken belief that they were a non-partisan charity! You won't find many right wing thinking people affiliated to them Serial. Right wingers not caring about others shocker! Au Contraire Nickle-arse....... I actually do care about others, but in this case it's the Israelis/Jewish people. Just in case any body forgot or wasn't paying attention in History classes at school, the Jews were treated pretty badly from about 1930 to 1945 by Hitler and the Nazis (and probably Stalin and his regime). The state of Israel was created to give the Jewish people a "spiritual home" and universal agreement to this creation was sanctioned by the UN. Since it's creation, neighbouring Arab countries have tried to wage war with Israel, but so far have got a bloody nose. Bearing in mind the treatment Jews have experienced since 1930 is it any wonder that they are fed up with Arab aggression, do not trust Arabs and will not rule out any measures to protect their borders and population. The Palestinians are just sh1t-stirring and deserve all the retaliation that they get from Israel when it is always them that breaks the ceasefires. Did the History you studied in school start in 1930 and was taught by ex member of Irgun How amusing......... Having thought about your reply a little deeper I can say that the millions of Jews killed in the holocaust probably wouldn't find your riposte amusing. Edited by Hoof Hearted (13 Oct 2015 10.32am)
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Two kids shot dead by Israeli soldiers today.

Here we go again.

Blaming Israel for this is too simplistic and wrong. The Palestinian leaders need to be held up for scrutiny.

And Amnesty International had no political agenda that they were working to?

Of course they found no evidence.... they weren't looking for any!

Please tell us what Amnesty's agenda is Hoof, I was clearly of the mistaken belief that they were a non-partisan charity!

You won't find many right wing thinking people affiliated to them Serial.

Right wingers not caring about others shocker!

Au Contraire Nickle-arse.......

I actually do care about others, but in this case it's the Israelis/Jewish people.

The state of Israel was created to give the Jewish people a "spiritual home" and universal agreement to this creation was sanctioned by the UN.

Since it's creation, neighbouring Arab countries have tried to wage war with Israel, but so far have got a bloody nose.

The Palestinians are just sh1t-stirring and deserve all the retaliation that they get from Israel when it is always them that breaks the ceasefires.

Did the History you studied in school start in 1930 and was taught by ex member of Irgun

How amusing.........

Having thought about your reply a little deeper I can say that the millions of Jews killed in the holocaust probably wouldn't find your riposte amusing.

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Curiously I have noted that several posters in this thread have condemned the Palestinian people for fighting for their home land, whilst in another thread condemned Syrians for not fighting for their homeland. I'm about the least nationalist and patriotic person I know, and I'd be prepared to fight an occupation by a foreign power. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Curiously I have noted that several posters in this thread have condemned the Palestinian people for fighting for their home land, whilst in another thread condemned Syrians for not fighting for their homeland.

I'm about the least nationalist and patriotic person I know, and I'd be prepared to fight an occupation by a foreign power.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Oct 2015 1.03pm Curiously I have noted that several posters in this thread have condemned the Palestinian people for fighting for their home land, whilst in another thread condemned Syrians for not fighting for their homeland. I'm about the least nationalist and patriotic person I know, and I'd be prepared to fight an occupation by a foreign power. No Jamie, that's not how it works. You're just supposed to accept the occupation, land-grabbing and murder of your friends/family without a fight. Edited by jcreedy (12 Oct 2015 5.00pm) It was my dream to play for Palace and to make my debut. I've always played for the club so if I'm playing here, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. - John Bostock (Nov 2007)
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Oct 2015 1.03pm

I'm about the least nationalist and patriotic person I know, and I'd be prepared to fight an occupation by a foreign power.

No Jamie, that's not how it works. You're just supposed to accept the occupation, land-grabbing and murder of your friends/family without a fight.

Edited by jcreedy (12 Oct 2015 5.00pm)

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