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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Feb 16 5.24pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No one would take leaving the EU lightly or deny some of the benefits, but to claim that it is responsible for peace and prosperity is a little implausible. I think being a member of NATO played it's part !!!!
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Percy of Peckham  Eton Mess 22 Feb 16 5.33pm |
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I'm out too! Exchange rate drops on possibility that UK may vote to leave EU. This immediately makes UK exports more competitive. Can't be bad then? Makes imports more expensive but we're already in negative inflation and that's not good either.
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Kermit8  Hevon 22 Feb 16 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Via a TV show with a celebrity chef you mean? Changing the EU from within is about as easy as it was for any SPL club to change anything that didn't favour Celtic and Rangers. If either of them voted against, that was that. Only this is 28 voters, rather than just 12. Exactly. If one geeky chef can make the EU change an important rule then there is a route in for more powerful others IF they have the back-up, good arguments and will.
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| Rubin 22 Feb 16 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Sterling dropping like a stone already on 'out' fears. We will have only 24 months to negotiate an exit if the 'out' vote wins when at that point we will cease to be a member state and any unfinished negotiations will automatically be terminated.
Sterling dropped due to uncertainty. The truth's a but different to your assessment of it being down to 'out fears'. The FTSE, interestingly, has risen.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 22 Feb 16 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I think being a member of NATO played it's part !!!! Mutually beneficial economic cooperation stops countries making war against each other. And, let's face it, Britain, Germany/Prussia Spain and France had been going at it hammer and tongs for way, way too long before common sense took over. The Act of Union is another war-stopping example of togetherness.
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| Rubin 22 Feb 16 5.39pm |
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Interesting to see that Zach Goldsmith is for 'out' - a man who clearly has no financial interest when it comes to his decision.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 22 Feb 16 5.42pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
Sterling dropped due to uncertainty. The truth's a but different to your assessment of it being down to 'out fears'. The FTSE, interestingly, has risen. Nothing to do with Boris then? Would it still have gone down if he had gone to the 'in' camp do you think?
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| wombat84 22 Feb 16 5.42pm |
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Originally posted by aquickgame2
I find this all very interesting...apart from the immigration problem,I would like to know why you are 100% out. Serious question by the way,I've asked before and not been given an answer 50 million plus a day we pay the EU.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 22 Feb 16 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
Interesting to see that Zach Goldsmith is for 'out' - a man who clearly has no financial interest when it comes to his decision. His very rich father was a huge campaigner for 'out' back in the 90's too so no massive surprise there.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 22 Feb 16 5.46pm |
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Originally posted by wombat84
50 million plus a day we pay the EU. Your average household gets over eight times back via cheaper goods,etc, from what they put in from the EU according to statistical research.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Feb 16 6.13pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
Sterling dropped due to uncertainty. The truth's a but different to your assessment of it being down to 'out fears'. The FTSE, interestingly, has risen. Weaker pound = more competitive exports. I think the pound vs Euro was overpriced not so long ago, as were the stock markets and there's possibly an element of 'sell the rumour, buy the fact' with Sterling. Plus there's the uncertainty, everyone rushing in whilst all the nonsense floats about regarding us becoming a pariah state, 'being isolated' and other tosh when European companies and countries need our purchases as much as we need their's and when we are in nobody values our opinion anyway. People will be trading off all sorts of comments and there will be more participants than normal so as they've seen something worth selling today, the faster it goes down, today. Edited by Rudi Hedman (22 Feb 2016 6.15pm)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Feb 16 6.29pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Your average household gets over eight times back via cheaper goods,etc, from what they put in from the EU according to statistical research. That is some claim. Have they factored in European energy firms or left it out? Fruit & Veg - Europe and afar. If people claim that tariffs are at risk of exit, how can they claim we'd lose 8 times our input (if it exists) when a tariff is essentially a VAT? They will still want to sell us their stuff and it may or may not go up a tariff amount, but then so could our's.
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