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View Oliver's Profile Oliver Flag Bodega Bay 06 Jan 19 11.01pm Send a Private Message to Oliver Add Oliver as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

They need us to buy their BMWs.

There is some truth in that but they will survive. The UK automotive industry will be proper f***ed. Interesting article from the Daily Mail of all places. [Link]

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 06 Jan 19 11.04pm

Originally posted by steve1984

There are plenty of alternatives to German cars. The Japanese and Koreans for example build great cars admittedly without the wow factor which impresses the neighbours.

But Japanese and Korean cars will also become more expensive because they're only available in the UK through a trade deal done on our behalf by the EU.

Japanese and German cars are not comparable, BMW would have a loyal customer base, they do not just switch to Toyota

 


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steve1984 06 Jan 19 11.50pm

Well then they'll have to skip a few golf trips in the algarve if they want a new one then.

Edited by steve1984 (06 Jan 2019 11.51pm)

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 07 Jan 19 8.10am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

There are plenty of alternatives to German cars. The Japanese and Koreans for example build great cars admittedly without the wow factor which impresses the neighbours.

But Japanese and Korean cars will also become more expensive because they're only available in the UK through a trade deal done on our behalf by the EU.

Since, as a member of the EU we are not permitted to negotiate our own trade deals, that's fine, but why is there always the assumption that any deal we negotiate after Brexit is going to cost more? Since Japanese and Korean cars are hugely popular in this country, and because we will be negotiating on a smaller (more personal if you like) scale, we may be able to get a better deal and cheaper prices without the protectionism of the EU for its' major car manufacturers.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 07 Jan 19 8.11am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

There are plenty of alternatives to German cars. The Japanese and Koreans for example build great cars admittedly without the wow factor which impresses the neighbours.

I assume by your stupid comment that your company isn't doing well enough for you to afford some German engineering

 

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steve1984 07 Jan 19 10.01am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I assume by your stupid comment that your company isn't doing well enough for you to afford some German engineering

We drive a Jeep, as I understand it the motor is one of Mercedes'. It's a joined up world, just not in your head.

 

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View lloydy's Profile lloydy Flag st ives cornwall 07 Jan 19 10.13am Send a Private Message to lloydy Add lloydy as a friend

We have(through the EU) an fta with South Korea and the EU has just signed an fta with Japan, so I'm not sure how we will be able to better that.

Originally posted by becky

Since, as a member of the EU we are not permitted to negotiate our own trade deals, that's fine, but why is there always the assumption that any deal we negotiate after Brexit is going to cost more? Since Japanese and Korean cars are hugely popular in this country, and because we will be negotiating on a smaller (more personal if you like) scale, we may be able to get a better deal and cheaper prices without the protectionism of the EU for its' major car manufacturers.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 07 Jan 19 10.14am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I assume by your stupid comment that your company isn't doing well enough for you to afford some German engineering

Have you seen the reliability stats?

German cars aren't exactly top drawer.

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Get a Korean car

Or a Subaru, apparently no faults at all.

 

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View lloydy's Profile lloydy Flag st ives cornwall 07 Jan 19 10.17am Send a Private Message to lloydy Add lloydy as a friend

Hannan is banging on about being like Switzerland today, in schengen and has fom.we all knew what we were voting for!

 

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steve1984 07 Jan 19 10.19am

Originally posted by becky

Since, as a member of the EU we are not permitted to negotiate our own trade deals, that's fine, but why is there always the assumption that any deal we negotiate after Brexit is going to cost more? Since Japanese and Korean cars are hugely popular in this country, and because we will be negotiating on a smaller (more personal if you like) scale, we may be able to get a better deal and cheaper prices without the protectionism of the EU for its' major car manufacturers.

It would be nice to think that a smaller more personal approach to international trade negotiations might bring a competitive advantage.

The assumption that after Brexit will cost more is based on the principle that smaller entities or countries get squeezed by larger ones.

After all that's why countries join trade blocks to begin with. Compared to standing alone, being part of a larger trade group is advantageous when forging trade agreements.

Simple analogy. You sell toothpaste for Colgate.

Sit with Tesco who sell 45% of your toothpaste. Before they'll stock your product and give 2 foot of shelf space, they demand a 20% discount, extended payment terms, a big advertising campaign, an in store money off promotion.

After you've been raped by Tesco, a bloke from a small regional wholesaler gets in touch. He's a nice guy and he's not very demanding but...

...to make your business targets you need to start recouping some of the costs you incurred reaching a deal with Tesco.

So he pays a high price, gets bad terms of payment, no promotions etc

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 07 Jan 19 10.38am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Have you seen the reliability stats?

German cars aren't exactly top drawer.

Get a Korean car

Or a Subaru, apparently no faults at all.

Reliability isn't the only reason that people buy a particular make for as comfort, handling and general driving appeal counts for a lot with many people.

I have been driving German cars for the last ten years and have never had a problem

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 Jan 19 10.40am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Reliability isn't the only reason that people buy a particular make for as comfort, handling and general driving appeal counts for a lot with many people.

I have been driving German cars for the last ten years and have never had a problem

You will be forced to consume more German cars.


 

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