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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 11 Apr 19 1.42pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The democratic vote could not be ignored because the people gave their whole-hearted consent.

That is the difference, June 2016 was split down the middle, a recipe for disaster.

Not quite down the middle but what is a million or so between friends!
Are you therefore saying if a 2nd referendum was held and remain won by 52%-48% you wouldn't accept it?
Don't forget (although you probably will) the EEC was a different kettle of fish to the EU

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Apr 19 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

I am thinking about decades of missed opportunities to live and work abroad and the long term impacts of massive reductions in jobs in the poorest areas of the country.

There are an estimated 1.2m British nationals living in EU countries and 2.9m EU nationals living in Britain. Who is likely to be most affected?

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 11 Apr 19 1.48pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

There are an estimated 1.2m British nationals living in EU countries and 2.9m EU nationals living in Britain. Who is likely to be most affected?

It's a lose / lose situation

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Apr 19 1.49pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The democratic vote could not be ignored because the people gave their whole-hearted consent.

That is the difference, June 2016 was split down the middle, a recipe for disaster.

The Delay vote was carried by one vote but that was sufficient.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 11 Apr 19 2.05pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The Delay vote was carried by one vote but that was sufficient.


Quite. And lets not even start about who actually cast it.

Personally I think the only way to settle this now though is a General Election. There is simply no way any deal goes through with May as PM and the House arrayed as it is.

We need a GE with all political parties standing on specific manifesto promises with regards to Brexit. If they want to pronounce themselves in favour of a second referendum or No Deal then lets have it out in the open. And people can vote accordingly.


But this cannot be allowed to continue. It has to be resolved, one way or the other, by October and ideally before hand.

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 11 Apr 19 2.05pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I am aware that you like the glass half empty interpretation but you and I have no real idea how Brexit will work out in terms of the economy and therefore, in reality, we are left to choose sides based on wider ideological issues.

You might prefer the Star Trek version of the future with a world government, no real nation states, and racial harmony but in reality that seems like a far less pleasant idea when you consider that before we ever get there (we won't) there will be a population crisis ultimately causing a breakdown of society and before that, decades of religious and cultural friction and a reduction in personal wealth created by freedom of movement and automation. We will also have no say on our futures since we will be reduced to corporate drones with no influence on a centralised government who feed us what they want us to know or believe.

Captain Kirk would probably a low paid Asian who grew up in a Shanti town and the Enterprise would never leave dock because deep space travel will only done by robots built in China by other robots.

Sounds like you are going full pentavorate here, Hrolf.

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

It's a lose / lose situation

That's why we had a referendum. It's not a hard notion to understand.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 11 Apr 19 2.16pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

In Ireland we got to vote on it twice. We made the wrong decision the first time so had to be educated and then vote again until we got it right.
Reminds me of what seems to be a decent possibility with Brexit.

in Ireland we got vote-raped. When we said 'No' the EU said we were just being difficult and pressed on regardless.

Never forget just how evil and pushy the EU are.

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 11 Apr 19 2.17pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

That's why we had a referendum. It's not a hard notion to understand.

What is harder to understand is how to deliver on the referendum.

1021 days have passed since that fateful night and we are precisely zero percent closer to enacting Brexit.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 11 Apr 19 2.30pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

in Ireland we got vote-raped. When we said 'No' the EU said we were just being difficult and pressed on regardless.

Never forget just how evil and pushy the EU are.

Really,? The general consensus in Ireland in 70-90% like being in the EU

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Euroscepticism seems to be only an English phenomenon

 


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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

What is harder to understand is how to deliver on the referendum.

1021 days have passed since that fateful night and we are precisely zero percent closer to enacting Brexit.

It's not hard to understand at all. My brochure that cost the government 9 million said we would leave, nothing about a deal. TM said no deal is better than a bad deal, her deal is terrible.
This is a stitch up not hard to understand that!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Apr 19 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Really,? The general consensus in Ireland in 70-90% like being in the EU

[Link]

Euroscepticism seems to be only an English phenomenon

Really? In the first vote in Ireland 53.4% voted no.

 

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