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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag Wisbech, England 11 Apr 19 5.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It was a fix the electoral commission has already found it so.

Leave campaign appeal has been withdrawn.

The over-spend of dubious money influenced the vote in favour of leave in the last 24 hours.

'Fromage not Farage'

This argument is so so ridiculous. What is 'legal' here is completely arbitrary. The system is rigged for the establishment and favoured the remain campaign.

The remain campaign was allowed to overspend the leave campaign by a significant amount.

The government used tax payers money to advise people to stay in the EU....effectively campaigning for remain.

The establishment tried to 'fix' the referendum with money, the government and media coverage......but just like with Trump in America the vastly underrepresented underdogs won......and just like in America the establishment want to shout 'illegal' because they are bad losers.


Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 5.05pm)

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This argument is so so ridiculous. What is 'legal' here is completely arbitrary. The system is rigged for the establishment and favoured the remain campaign.

The remain campaign was allowed to overspend the leave campaign by a significant amount.

The government used tax payers money to advise people to stay in the EU....effectively campaigning for remain.

The establishment tried to 'fix' the referendum with money, the government and media coverage......but just like with Trump in America the vastly underrepresented underdogs won......and just like in America the establishment want to shout 'illegal' because they are bad losers.


Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 5.05pm)

It's a struggle debating points that are untrue.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 11 Apr 19 5.14pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This argument is so so ridiculous. What is 'legal' here is completely arbitrary. The system is rigged for the establishment and favoured the remain campaign.

The remain campaign was allowed to overspend the leave campaign by a significant amount.

The government used tax payers money to advise people to stay in the EU....effectively campaigning for remain.

The establishment tried to 'fix' the referendum with money, the government and media coverage......but just like with Trump in America the vastly underrepresented underdogs won......and just like in America the establishment want to shout 'illegal' because they are bad losers.


Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 5.05pm)

Good point and more the establishment yank the chain the worse it will get for them.

Knowledge is power and people have plenty of it now days.
People are even seeing through the fake news, hilarious. What ever next, internet restriction, no the EU have already thought about, communism in action.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Apr 2019 5.16pm)

Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Apr 2019 5.17pm)

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This argument is so so ridiculous. What is 'legal' here is completely arbitrary. The system is rigged for the establishment and favoured the remain campaign.

The remain campaign was allowed to overspend the leave campaign by a significant amount.

The government used tax payers money to advise people to stay in the EU....effectively campaigning for remain.

The establishment tried to 'fix' the referendum with money, the government and media coverage......but just like with Trump in America the vastly underrepresented underdogs won......and just like in America the establishment want to shout 'illegal' because they are bad losers.


Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 5.05pm)

It is not an argument just a statement of the facts.

Why does anybody want to deliver on, at the pain of death, a bent referendum.

That is bound to be the verdict of historians when they look back objectively.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag Wisbech, England 11 Apr 19 6.01pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It is not an argument just a statement of the facts.

Why does anybody want to deliver on, at the pain of death, a bent referendum.

That is bound to be the verdict of historians when they look back objectively.

You just ignore the points and carry on in your merry way.

 

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Originally posted by chris123

It's a struggle debating points that are untrue.

The truth is an afterthought when it comes to power.

 

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Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Good point and more the establishment yank the chain the worse it will get for them.

Knowledge is power and people have plenty of it now days.
People are even seeing through the fake news, hilarious. What ever next, internet restriction, no the EU have already thought about, communism in action.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Apr 2019 5.16pm)

Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Apr 2019 5.17pm)

I remember someone telling me as a youth that the end result of socialism was communism....I think Marx said something along those lines.

I never thought though that I'd be watching a Tory party enacting intersectional and feminist policies.....and Tory remain politicians are way over represented over leave ones in the parliament for how their areas voted.

How the so called stewards in the conservative party allowed that.....they are crapping over their own grass roots.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 6.12pm)

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This argument is so so ridiculous. What is 'legal' here is completely arbitrary. The system is rigged for the establishment and favoured the remain campaign.

The remain campaign was allowed to overspend the leave campaign by a significant amount.

The government used tax payers money to advise people to stay in the EU....effectively campaigning for remain.

The establishment tried to 'fix' the referendum with money, the government and media coverage......but just like with Trump in America the vastly underrepresented underdogs won......and just like in America the establishment want to shout 'illegal' because they are bad losers.


Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 5.05pm)

The government are duty bound to finance elements that they feel are in the best interest of the country.
Clearly in this case they thought remain was in the best interests of the country.
Without a crystal ball they had to stick not twist.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

The government are duty bound to finance elements that they feel are in the best interest of the country.
Clearly in this case they thought remain was in the best interests of the country.
Without a crystal ball they had to stick not twist.

They thought the same about 'austerity'.
They were wrong then too.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This argument is so so ridiculous. What is 'legal' here is completely arbitrary. The system is rigged for the establishment and favoured the remain campaign.

The remain campaign was allowed to overspend the leave campaign by a significant amount.

The government used tax payers money to advise people to stay in the EU....effectively campaigning for remain.

The establishment tried to 'fix' the referendum with money, the government and media coverage......but just like with Trump in America the vastly underrepresented underdogs won......and just like in America the establishment want to shout 'illegal' because they are bad losers.


Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Apr 2019 5.05pm)

I am a staunch remainer but largely agree with this though when I see terms like establishment I smell conspiracy theory. Like there was ever a unified collective of men in dark suits plotting remain. That said it is fair to say that almost half the electorate voted remain including most of commerce manufacturing finance and the city as well as most of the government. Were they all wrong?

 

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Originally posted by silvertop

I am a staunch remainer but largely agree with this though when I see terms like establishment I smell conspiracy theory. Like there was ever a unified collective of men in dark suits plotting remain. That said it is fair to say that almost half the electorate voted remain including most of commerce manufacturing finance and the city as well as most of the government. Were they all wrong?

It doesn't matter, it was a people's vote not a buisness vote. Buisness loved cheap Labour, they would pay even less if they could and that's why it's a people's vote, For the people. The very people who's wages are going up because cheap labour is slowing.
Fantastic news, more wages more money sloshing around

Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Apr 2019 9.41pm)

Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Apr 2019 9.43pm)

 

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Originally posted by silvertop

I am a staunch remainer but largely agree with this though when I see terms like establishment I smell conspiracy theory. Like there was ever a unified collective of men in dark suits plotting remain. That said it is fair to say that almost half the electorate voted remain including most of commerce manufacturing finance and the city as well as most of the government. Were they all wrong?

They were not wrong or right but simply made a judgment to protect their own interests in the short term.

 

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