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 the silurian  The garden of England.(not really) 07 Sep 19 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
For the umpteenth time. We don't vote in delegates. We vote in representatives. They are not sent there to act on behalf of a small number of party members. They are sent there to use their wisdom to decide for themselves what is the best interests of everyone in their constituency and the country as a whole. is 17.4 million a small number in your world??
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Sep 19 1.17pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The will of the people is expressed through their elected representatives. That's the way it works. It's not simply the will of the people who vote, let alone the will of the people who vote in any particular way. It's the perceived will of ALL of the people as determined by the MPs. Well they don’t do that in normal circumstances or we may as well go to PR.
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Teddy Eagle  07 Sep 19 1.31pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
For the umpteenth time. We don't vote in delegates. We vote in representatives. They are not sent there to act on behalf of a small number of party members. They are sent there to use their wisdom to decide for themselves what is the best interests of everyone in their constituency and the country as a whole. You have a lot of faith in the wisdom of people doing a job for which the only qualification required is to be 18 years old.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 07 Sep 19 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
You have a lot of faith in the wisdom of people doing a job for which the only qualification required is to be 18 years old. It's a terrible job being an MP that's why no one wants to do it, oh hang on....
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cryrst  The garden of England 07 Sep 19 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am no fan of Corbyn but Johnson's problem is that it isn't Corbyn who he is up against, however much he tries to frame it that way. It's Parliament as a whole, including a significant number of people who until recently were senior figures in his own party. As Corbyn is a very experienced Parliamentarian who understands the conventions and processes as well as anyone he also presents a formidable opponent at this time, whatever you think of his politics. He is also handling himself with more dignity and gravitas than Johnson, which won't be missed by the average voter. Corbyn could have instructed on how his lot voted.
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| cryrst The garden of England 07 Sep 19 1.52pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I begin to find myself caring less, until I see the fancy dress pro EU oddballs outside Parliament (the town crier over interviews gets on my t1ts) and how many of the heavily pro EU public will happily sell this country out completely so it has completely lost its identity because of things like: Lack of pride Feeling their nation of England or Britain or ancestory isn’t interesting or diverse enough, too plain or embarrassing because of the people Emily Thornberry looks down at. You are what you are. Embrace it or deal with it. Move away if you don’t like it. There’s a solution. Guilt for things decades and centuries before them. No concern for anyone outside of their socio economic group. Apart from some principled people, I believe this to be the case. I’ve said this before but I’d be quite happy to encourage millions of young Mediterranean graduates into Britain like Blair did with cheap east Europeans that have cost people in lower socio economic groups or some industries. Then we’d see how much they love the EU when post graduates are in unskilled or low skilled jobs for many years to come. There are really only 2 things that concern me with leaving. 1. Medicine that needs to kept in controlled environments and temperatures. 2. JIT Just In Time car industry manufacturing. I can’t think of anything else that’s are that much of a concern and can’t be solved. Even those 2 can be with some organisation. Medication has been stockpiled and the car industry is being removed with or without brexit.if they can build cheaper elsewhere to make more profit they will.
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| DANGERCLOSE london 07 Sep 19 2.11pm |
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| DANGERCLOSE london 07 Sep 19 2.14pm |
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| chris123 hove actually 07 Sep 19 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
In trying to find an exit route that they can all agree upon and which is also acceptable to the rest of the EU they have indeed honoured their commitment. When the whole of the "leave" campaign was predicated upon the idea that a deal would not only be negotiated but would be a piece of cake to arrange you must expect Parliament to seek one. But there is a deal, agreed with the EU. It's Parliament has not backed it - three times.
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| dynamicdick Dormansland 07 Sep 19 2.35pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Excellent points. You have surpassed yourself Willo, great post. As you rightly say as of yet Parliament haven’t come up with any alternative proposals. The onus is now on them.
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| dannyboy1978 07 Sep 19 2.43pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
For the umpteenth time. We don't vote in delegates. We vote in representatives. They are not sent there to act on behalf of a small number of party members. They are sent there to use their wisdom to decide for themselves what is the best interests of everyone in their constituency and the country as a whole. So what your saying is the representatives gave us a referendum so we could leave. They then voted for artical 50 in order to leave. Then block brexit every way they can. Edited by dannyboy1978 (07 Sep 2019 2.44pm)
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| Stirlingsays 07 Sep 19 3.47pm |
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Still chewing away at my popcorn. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2019 3.48pm)
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