How about another alternative? We remain in Europe but we take back full control of our borders and our courts and don’t give the European Union £350m a week. Sounds fair to me, I’d vote for that. After all, what do we really get out of our membership other than a relatively straightforward passage through passport control when we go on holiday. What are we actually paying for and how does it benefit us and why do we contribute such an enormous amount compared to other countries?

This is obviously said tongue in cheek however I’ve never grasped how a country such as ours which no longer produces that many goods for export and is a massive net importer benefits from paying a huge membership fee that effectively offers little more than free trade with people who want to sell us loads of stuff. Now if we were still the bastion of the car industry and looking to offload our cars across Europe I could understand it. But we are not. A simplistic viewpoint I’ll grant you, but in the absence of a full economic explanation it works for me!

Bit racist isn't it?

Yes wissy.
Those eastern European men are born liars.
Was that the type of Chap you alledgedly caught with your wingmirror.

Wisbech, surely this is completely wrong. If you are politically persuaded to the conservatives you don’t vote labour because you think the individual in your constituency is a better politician? You vote to influence the national not the local agenda.

Fine so a deal or no deal referendum then? Sounds fun.

Remaining can't be an option though because we have done that one already and by your logic, it is not a definitive outcome either.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Oct 2019 8.02pm)

No, no, no, and no some more.

The first referendum cannot be implemented, because the country was split basically 50/50 and "leave the EU" is a very broad concept with many, many different ways of being achieved.

Country split down the middle = parliament split down the middle. 3 years later and here we are, what a surprise.

The point of a 2nd vote, is to not ask a binary, childlike simplistic, undeliverable, massively broad, umbrella, 10000 ft view question, it is to ask for specific responses to specific ways of leaving the EU. For example with the latest deal, or with no deal.

Now that the details of the latest deal are known.....Now that the details of what "no deal" really means are known........Now that 350 million pound buses are known to be false....Now that lies by the remain campaign are known to be false.......Now is a good time to ask more specific questions which lead to deliverable outcomes.

If you respected the will of the people in 2016, how about seeing if the will of the people has changed, based on new information/debunking of a litany of mistruths (on both sides).

The will of the people counts in 2019 just like it did in 2016.