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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 1.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If every criminal message was prosecuted you would be doing life by now.

Personal dig after personal dig. Good work.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 30 Nov 16 1.30pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Probably similar to mine - Socialist Party / Socialist Workers Party, Communist Party of Great Britain, Workers Libertine etc.

Corbyn is actually left wing, but more in the tradition of Michael Foot, Tony Benn.

Actually Far Left for me probably is more Baader-Meinhoff / Rote Army Faktion, Angry Brigade, Class War etc.

To me that would be quite left wing!

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 30 Nov 16 1.30pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Another brexiting day and I am really focussed on Mrs.May's lack of sleep in fact if she slept in the day wouldn't the country be better off?

Its boring old brexit for a while as the govt. insists on spending our money on a case where winning or losing is no benefit to us - if anything it will still show that she tried to bypass parliament actually the EU are far more careful of our sovereignity than the dictator and her bunch of stooges ever will be.

After all these proceedings are over its likely there will be referrals to the EU as its EU law and I think there will be plenty of legal sieges dragging out for many years.

Why not just not trigger Article 50 at all and business as you were.

Mrs May might even look at the county's problems then so not a good outcome in that respect.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 30 Nov 16 1.41pm

Originally posted by chris123

There is a report from HM Gov. that makes the point that part of the increase may be due to enhanced reporting of crime. Plus the balance must be on outcomes, ie are the perpetrators being prosecuted?

Balance can't be on outcomes of convictions, but reports, as otherwise you miss crimes for which perpetrators are not arrested, charged etc.

If you measure crime statistics on prosecutions, you'll have a major problem when it comes to sex offence reporting (given the UK has just had record high prosecution rate of 22.5% of cases).

22.5% of around 70,000 or so reported sex offences (no figure for 2016 available yet) were prosecuted.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 2.12pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Balance can't be on outcomes of convictions, but reports, as otherwise you miss crimes for which perpetrators are not arrested, charged etc.

If you measure crime statistics on prosecutions, you'll have a major problem when it comes to sex offence reporting (given the UK has just had record high prosecution rate of 22.5% of cases).

22.5% of around 70,000 or so reported sex offences (no figure for 2016 available yet) were prosecuted.

Additionally, if the perps of the '****mon' signs mentioned earlier are not caught, it doesn't mean that the offence didn't take place.

How many people that break into houses to steal are caught compared to the number that aren't? It doesn't mean a crime hasn't taken place does it?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Nov 16 2.32pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Personal dig after personal dig. Good work.

Add hypocrisy to the list.

TBF, it's already on there.

 

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 30 Nov 16 3.57pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Another brexiting day and I am really focussed on Mrs.May's lack of sleep in fact if she slept in the day wouldn't the country be better off?

Its boring old brexit for a while as the govt. insists on spending our money on a case where winning or losing is no benefit to us - if anything it will still show that she tried to bypass parliament actually the EU are far more careful of our sovereignity than the dictator and her bunch of stooges ever will be.

After all these proceedings are over its likely there will be referrals to the EU as its EU law and I think there will be plenty of legal sieges dragging out for many years.

Why not just not trigger Article 50 at all and business as you were.

Mrs May might even look at the county's problems then so not a good outcome in that respect.

Its the idiots that cannot accept the referendum result that is causing all the trouble and costs to us. Why do you not just see that the brexit voters won the day and stop harping on about it. May is no more a dictator than my grandson. She will do what is best for us all and the country and give it a few years and we will be totally free of the shackles that EU put on us and our trade will be ten times better. Plus we will be able to use our own laws the way that it suits us and not by the way the courts in Strasburg dictate now.. In a couple of years time the EU will cease to exist as it is now and more countries will have left like us. I am afraid the EU club is finished and also the Euro currency along with it.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 4.02pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Add hypocrisy to the list.

TBF, it's already on there.

good work again. typical right wing tactic, attack the person not the message- jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbott, Lily Allen, Russell Brand etc etc

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 30 Nov 16 5.55pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Balance can't be on outcomes of convictions, but reports, as otherwise you miss crimes for which perpetrators are not arrested, charged etc.

If you measure crime statistics on prosecutions, you'll have a major problem when it comes to sex offence reporting (given the UK has just had record high prosecution rate of 22.5% of cases).

22.5% of around 70,000 or so reported sex offences (no figure for 2016 available yet) were prosecuted.

Disagree, I want to see outcomes, as that will help drive these crime stats down.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 30 Nov 16 6.02pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

Its the idiots that cannot accept the referendum result that is causing all the trouble and costs to us. Why do you not just see that the brexit voters won the day and stop harping on about it. May is no more a dictator than my grandson. She will do what is best for us all and the country and give it a few years and we will be totally free of the shackles that EU put on us and our trade will be ten times better. Plus we will be able to use our own laws the way that it suits us and not by the way the courts in Strasburg dictate now.. In a couple of years time the EU will cease to exist as it is now and more countries will have left like us. I am afraid the EU club is finished and also the Euro currency along with it.

Its that tory rag The Sun that called her a tinpot dictator.

EU says no thank you to making arrangements in advance of Article 50.

A nation of power and experience reduced to hate crimes a brexit banana republic.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Its that tory rag The Sun that called her a tinpot dictator.

EU says no thank you to making arrangements in advance of Article 50.

A nation of power and experience reduced to hate crimes a brexit banana republic.

The Sun may have reported the story, but it was the hedge fund manager that won the ruling who called the PM a tinpot dictator.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Nov 16 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

good work again. typical right wing tactic, attack the person not the message- jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbott, Lily Allen, Russell Brand etc etc

Is that a new lefty super group?

Really Gusset, you should be the last person complaining about playing the man. You do it daily.

 

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