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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 05 Dec 16 12.32pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Good Day brexit fans and the Attorney General is telling their majesties the Supreme Court that 'they must not deny the will of the people.' That's outside the Court of course.

So Judges X1 1 Government 0 I think but its all to play for.

All the Judges are fit but Delaney not playing so could be vulnerable on the set-pieces.

Costs to be met by the tax-payer.

Ratings in January by Garth Crooks.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Good Day brexit fans and the Attorney General is telling their majesties the Supreme Court that 'they must not deny the will of the people.' That's outside the Court of course.

So Judges X1 1 Government 0 I think but its all to play for.

All the Judges are fit but Delaney not playing so could be vulnerable on the set-pieces.

Costs to be met by the tax-payer.

Ratings in January by Garth Crooks.

You really do need help old man!

 


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Originally posted by steeleye20

Good Day brexit fans and the Attorney General is telling their majesties the Supreme Court that 'they must not deny the will of the people.' That's outside the Court of course.

So Judges X1 1 Government 0 I think but its all to play for.

All the Judges are fit but Delaney not playing so could be vulnerable on the set-pieces.

Costs to be met by the tax-payer.

Ratings in January by Garth Crooks.

Thanks Steeleye. Have they announced who is on the bench? I think they'll need a solid defence and someone good to cut in from the left to counter the strong right defenders.

Here wig go here wig go here wig go.

Edited by Mapletree (05 Dec 2016 3.35pm)

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 05 Dec 16 3.52pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Thanks Steeleye. Have they announced who is on the bench? I think they'll need a solid defence and someone good to cut in from the left to counter the strong right defenders.

Here wig go here wig go here wig go.

Edited by Mapletree (05 Dec 2016 3.35pm)

A little levity not amiss
no wigs or gowns or mi'luds its heavy going

 

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View tome's Profile tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 06 Dec 16 10.22am Send a Private Message to tome Add tome as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

It is different, Jamie.

The Lib Dems have always had a preoccupation with democracy. They have always extolled the virtues of a change to the democratic process in the UK and campaigned for the change side when the STV referendum happened a few years ago.

What they are doing now is cynically seeking to get the Remain vote by saying they will ignore democracy and vote against leaving the EU.

It's hypocrisy at its highest level.

It will contribute to wiping out Labour at the next election. I would normally welcome that but under these circumstances, no.

Why is it different? If Farage said he'd push for another if it was a 52-48 split, why can't others?

In any case, the vote was for a departure, not a destination. Why do you think it's such a bad idea to check on the terms of that exit? Because people may assume the vote was about anti-establishment action, immigration, or strange fears of Turks or being part ofa super-state doesn't hold any water because that wasn't on the ballot.

Given that the campaign was run on the back of preposterous lies don't you think that subverts democracy?

F*ckin' hell the left v right tribalism 'we won, you lost, ner ner ner' is bloody tiresome.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 06 Dec 16 10.44am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by tome

Why is it different? If Farage said he'd push for another if it was a 52-48 split, why can't others?

In any case, the vote was for a departure, not a destination. Why do you think it's such a bad idea to check on the terms of that exit? Because people may assume the vote was about anti-establishment action, immigration, or strange fears of Turks or being part ofa super-state doesn't hold any water because that wasn't on the ballot.

Given that the campaign was run on the back of preposterous lies don't you think that subverts democracy?

F*ckin' hell the left v right tribalism 'we won, you lost, ner ner ner' is bloody tiresome.

Basically the previous gent is ranting against the Libdems being politicians

 

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Hoof Hearted 06 Dec 16 11.01am

Originally posted by tome

Why is it different? If Farage said he'd push for another if it was a 52-48 split, why can't others?

In any case, the vote was for a departure, not a destination. Why do you think it's such a bad idea to check on the terms of that exit? Because people may assume the vote was about anti-establishment action, immigration, or strange fears of Turks or being part ofa super-state doesn't hold any water because that wasn't on the ballot.

Given that the campaign was run on the back of preposterous lies don't you think that subverts democracy?

F*ckin' hell the left v right tribalism 'we won, you lost, ner ner ner' is bloody tiresome.

Hold on a minute.... the original referendum in 1975 which resulted in us joining what was the common market was accepted in good grace by those who lost the vote!

Since then the previously innocuous common market has become the EU federal state.

If anything has been achieved by "preposterous lies" then surely that is what has happened to the UK with our enforced membership of the EU. No one in 1975 envisaged 300,000+ EU citizens arriving in the UK each and every year causing such hardship to communities with ghettos, lack of housing, schools, hospitals, etc.

As you said the ballot paper was self explanatory.... you voted to remain or leave.

Leave won this time, so just like in 1975, the losers should suck it up and accept that democracy has determined our departure from the EU.

No legal challenge, no 2nd referendum to ratify terms, no Parliamentary debate.

Brexit means Brexit now is just the same as our joining the common market in 1975 followed the people's voting decision.

I was disappointed in 1975, but I accepted it. Please have the courtesy and respect to accept the country's decision now.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 06 Dec 16 11.05am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Nawty, Hoofy.

You said a while back you had no idea which way you voted in 1975. Get back down of that moral high ground and in the gutter with the rest of us.

 


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Hoof Hearted 06 Dec 16 11.27am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Nawty, Hoofy.

You said a while back you had no idea which way you voted in 1975. Get back down of that moral high ground and in the gutter with the rest of us.

I did say that I wasn't sure a while back, but having given it more thought and chatting with the family I am now convinced that I voted no because....

1, In those days whoever I voted for got beat.
2. My hatred/disdain for Germany and France.
3. My annoyance at De Gaulle's reluctance to let us join previously.

I am 99.9% sure I voted no.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 06 Dec 16 11.27am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

I did say that I wasn't sure a while back, but having given it more thought and chatting with the family I am now convinced that I voted no because....

1, In those days whoever I voted for got beat.
2. My hatred/disdain for Germany and France.
3. My annoyance at De Gaulle's reluctance to let us join previously.

I am 99.9% sure I voted no.

Bollocks Nice try, though.

 


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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 06 Dec 16 11.28am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by tome

Why is it different? If Farage said he'd push for another if it was a 52-48 split, why can't others?

In any case, the vote was for a departure, not a destination. Why do you think it's such a bad idea to check on the terms of that exit? Because people may assume the vote was about anti-establishment action, immigration, or strange fears of Turks or being part ofa super-state doesn't hold any water because that wasn't on the ballot.

Given that the campaign was run on the back of preposterous lies don't you think that subverts democracy?

F*ckin' hell the left v right tribalism 'we won, you lost, ner ner ner' is bloody tiresome.

Because the Lib Dems, hence part of their name, have always banged on about accepting democracy.

By saying they will ignore the result of the referendum because it doesn't suit them, has a big whiff of hypocrisy hanging over it.

 


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Hoof Hearted 06 Dec 16 11.34am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Bollocks Nice try, though.

That's why I like debating with you - your memory is good and you're fair usually and will accept a point well made in my experience.

And you add a little humour to the debate.

I miss Seth.... locking horns with him was a noble fight!

 

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