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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Going by my visit to the new Spurs stadium, if almost doubling your capacity requires bugger all by way of improvements to local transport then we should be fine on this.

Croydon Council is a far different kettle of fish than Haringey.

 


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Silly but serious question, but how do you improve transport links, there are already three Rail Stations within 10 mins walk with buses stopping outside the ground, plenty of off street parking as well

 

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Originally posted by kenners46

Silly but serious question, but how do you improve transport links, there are already three Rail Stations within 10 mins walk with buses stopping outside the ground, plenty of off street parking as well

Maybe widening of pavements and work at the current train stations to improve the flow of people. Just guessing, which was how I started this post which has become more likely and needed.

 


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Originally posted by JohnB

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Steve Parish has assured Crystal Palace fans work is progressing with the redevelopment of Selhurst Park and he “won’t rest” until the new stand is built.

Crystal Palace have been given planning permission by Croydon Council to build a new Main Stand, which will increase the capacity of Selhurst Park from to 26,000 to more than 34,000.

The Eagles would like to begin work on the redevelopment, which will cost between £75m to £100m, at the end of this season with a view to it being ready for the 2021/22 campaign.

However negotiations are still ongoing with Croydon Council over Palace’s Section 106 obligations, as per the Town & Country Planning Act 1990, to fund transport and community improvement initiatives.

Until that is agreed work cannot begin, but Standard Sport understands talks are progressing well and just a few issues need finalising.

The Eagles are also making progress with work on their new academy and Parish, Crystal Palace’s chairman and co-owner, has assured fans he is determined to deliver both projects.

“Things are moving forward,” said Parish as he addressed Eagles supporters at Tuesday's Crystal Palace awards.

“Certainly from me, I won’t rest until we see that new stand built and we see the investment in the academy.

“What all these guys want to see, what the players want to see, is progress of the club. We have had some difficult moments with that and there are still some hurdles to get over.

“But that and the academy, we are 100 per cent committed to. Don’t think for a minute that I don’t think like a supporter when I see what Tottenham are doing and other clubs.

“We need to get there. It is a big challenge for me and a big challenge for everyone at the club, but we need to make sure it happens.”

Uh oh now we want to be spurs. Used to be Swansea, and look what happened to them.

We cannot ever be Spurs, nor should we want to be.

So talks are stalling. Sounds a bit like the Niasse transfer negotiations. I wonder if the same person is running them.

 


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Originally posted by kenners46

Silly but serious question, but how do you improve transport links, there are already three Rail Stations within 10 mins walk with buses stopping outside the ground, plenty of off street parking as well

Croydon council wouldn't be the first one to want a football club to fund traffic improvements that are actually down to them. But hey we're a Premier League mega club so we should pay instead.

 


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I believe that Croydon Council want the club to come up with plans and ideas as well as fund them, especially if the ground capacity will be increased
Enticing supporters to use public transport instead of driving to matches, increasing the congestion on matchdays and parking in residential streets near the ground.
Could the club for instance fund 2 or 3 park and ride schemes, subsidise or include free bus and train travel with your match or season ticket?
Maybe the Council want the club to steward some of the streets as they will be a lot busier pre and post match.
Could a lot more roads be closed to traffic on grounds of safety giving a wider pedestrian zone around Selhurst Park?

 

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Originally posted by Pierre

I believe that Croydon Council want the club to come up with plans and ideas as well as fund them, especially if the ground capacity will be increased
Enticing supporters to use public transport instead of driving to matches, increasing the congestion on matchdays and parking in residential streets near the ground.
Could the club for instance fund 2 or 3 park and ride schemes, subsidise or include free bus and train travel with your match or season ticket?
Maybe the Council want the club to steward some of the streets as they will be a lot busier pre and post match.
Could a lot more roads be closed to traffic on grounds of safety giving a wider pedestrian zone around Selhurst Park?

Councils are becoming outdated dinosaurs run by incompetent snowflakes. With their frustrating time delays they have become a plague to modern society.

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No plans for additional closed roads on matchdays

There will be a residents CPZ (controlled parking zone) for some distance around the vicinity of the stadium (common at most larger grounds)

Council wanted Palace to include public transport in the cost of a ticket, but it wasn't practical with where everyone comes from

They also wanted Palace to fund station improvements, but these are already planned and funded anyway by the Mayor's office

Palace will be required to have local street clean up teams, and the odd toilet between stations and the ground (presumably those pissoir units)

 

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Councils are putting Conditions on Planning Permission more and more for big developments.
It's almost like bribery, except the brown envelopes are missing. Providing funding for ancillary transport is absolving the Council of any responsibility and accountability if anything goes wrong.

I am not commenting in relation to CPFC/Croydon or anything specific to do with the Main Stand.
I have regular dealings with Councils and developers and some of the stuff that goes on is very dubious, morally, financially and legally. A very fine line is trodden.

At least there is some transparency nowadays, and the cash in envelopes process is largely gone.

 


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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Uh oh now we want to be spurs. Used to be Swansea, and look what happened to them.

We cannot ever be Spurs, nor should we want to be.

So talks are stalling. Sounds a bit like the Niasse transfer negotiations. I wonder if the same person is running them.

You seem clever and insightful.

 

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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Councils are putting Conditions on Planning Permission more and more for big developments.
It's almost like bribery, except the brown envelopes are missing. Providing funding for ancillary transport is absolving the Council of any responsibility and accountability if anything goes wrong.

I am not commenting in relation to CPFC/Croydon or anything specific to do with the Main Stand.
I have regular dealings with Councils and developers and some of the stuff that goes on is very dubious, morally, financially and legally. A very fine line is trodden.

At least there is some transparency nowadays, and the cash in envelopes process is largely gone.

Councils have also suffered huge funding cuts across the country, so it's hardly surprising that when a multi-million pound entity wants to get something done they try and get something out of it for themselves.

 


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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Uh oh now we want to be spurs. Used to be Swansea, and look what happened to them.

We cannot ever be Spurs, nor should we want to be.

So talks are stalling. Sounds a bit like the Niasse transfer negotiations. I wonder if the same person is running them.

It comes down to resources and getting the lpa on board.

Haringey (?) Say rebuild 2 railway stations build new bus lanes and develop a whole network of cycle an pedestrian routes. Spurs check coffers for loose change and say no problem.

The somewhat less sympathetic Croydon lpa make similar demands of us which are beyond our finances. So we have to dig in and try and strike a deal.

Thus things take longer and time lags will appear which the media will describe as "stalls".

It will happen at the right cost but the wrong speed.

 

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