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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 04 May 16 1.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
You could say all of that.... and you have! I could say that Obama's speech on Brexit was written for him by Cameron - and explain why Obama uses the term "queue"... whereas it is usual for Americans to use the term "line". If you recall my arguments are not about the economy as I believe it could go either way. You and your new found friend claiming to be an economist (unbelievably with no access to the Wall Street Journal website) keep banging on about the economy. My fears are about limited space in the UK for further mass immigration that will surely follow a decision to remain in EU especially when Turkey join the fray, but you keep bringing up economic queries. Have you answered my Sharia Law query yet (without referring to the economy) on the other thread Johnny? Edited by Hoof Hearted (04 May 2016 12.47pm) I realize you are making a point there but President Obama has used "queue" in the past when speaking in Europe. He rarely uses it over here because first many would go "Huh?" and then go back to the birther nonsense. I remember reading in one of his books that his mother and step father, Sotoro, speaking to him using the Queen's English. He has, on casion, used it over here and, guess what, out came the birthers. For a different type of "Presidential Address," have a look at this year's White House Correspondents Dinner. The reference to "CBT" is to a skit Hillary Clinton did with Mayor Bill DeBlasio at the Broadway musical "Hamilton" recently.
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JohnyBoy 04 May 16 1.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
You could say all of that.... and you have! I could say that Obama's speech on Brexit was written for him by Cameron - and explain why Obama uses the term "queue"... whereas it is usual for Americans to use the term "line". If you recall my arguments are not about the economy as I believe it could go either way. You and your new found friend claiming to be an economist (unbelievably with no access to the Wall Street Journal website) keep banging on about the economy. My fears are about limited space in the UK for further mass immigration that will surely follow a decision to remain in EU especially when Turkey join the fray, but you keep bringing up economic queries. Have you answered my Sharia Law query yet (without referring to the economy) on the other thread Johnny? Edited by Hoof Hearted (04 May 2016 12.47pm) Yes i did answer your question about shiraz law....but it is again misleading to say its just about the economy. Despite reams of very well articulated pieces crafted by myself and bigpalacefan its also about defence(security), unemployment and rising poverty which usually increases crime, influence and power on the world stage and opportnities for our kids and grandkids to live and work abroad....there just isnt any rational argument for brexit in my humble opinion....unless you are financially positioned (i.e. short) for it.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 May 16 1.26pm | |
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I think its reasonable to say that if the UK leaves the EU, this will have some economic ramifications especially in relation to the market, as change is usually greeted with fear from investors and speculators. Longer term it will settle, as ultimately companies will define that change, as will government policy. The reason why no one can reasonably state whether an exit will be good or bad for the UK, is because there is no real definition of what form that exit will take, how it will be implemented, and how it will be exploited. Essentially, the same issue remains with staying. Unlike an election where parties publish their manifesto of what they will do if elected, the reality of the Referendum is that ultimately, a Pro-EU group will deliver the exit, which they have been campaigning against. And the likelihood is that even if that party split and called a general election, its lack of unity on the issue, would result in a Pro-EU government directing the exit. All of these ideals that people, including me, are talking about in terms of leaving, simply won't happen and they won't be 'more achievable', because none of the UK political parties in the last 20-25 years have been interested in achieving them anyhow. In the unlikely even that the UK leaves the EU, it will almost certainly be under the direction of Pro-EU Conservatives, and it will be won by a small margin. It might have been more significant maybe to have had the referendum included as part of a national election, so that we could actually have parties publish manifestos regarding their intentions if the UK votes in and if they vote out. Having it now seems a bit pointless. The only likely factor of change would be if its a landslide either way, and then its a maybe, because we'd still be three or four years away from a general election where we could select parties on the policy regarding EU membership or exit.
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big_palace_fan 04 May 16 1.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
If I knew this debate was going to deteriorate into "My dad is bigger than your dad" I wouldn't have bothered participating. And to discount someone's opinion because they are old and white shows you to be a bigot. And for your information Hargreaves and other registered IFA's have had to pass testing industry examinations over the years that together with actual experience equates to financial degrees offered by many Uni's these days. The changing legislation, taxation, documentation and working practice in the field of just pensions alone since 1972, when I joined the industry, would make the sharpest minds boggle. A degree in economics these days is as much use as having one in textiles, media studies or top trumps.... most will pass with a 2.2 and end up flipping burgers and not paying back their student loans. A GCE A level in Hargreaves day would be far superior to today's degree course with it's multi-choice format and help from tutors, not to mention cribbing from the internet. You sound incredibly ignorant
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 04 May 16 1.41pm | |
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Originally posted by big_palace_fan
You sound incredibly ignorant Said with (remarkably) not a hint of irony.
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big_palace_fan 04 May 16 1.54pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Said with (remarkably) not a hint of irony. Was with respect to his comments that economics grads will be flipping burgers.
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Mapletree Croydon 04 May 16 1.58pm | |
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Originally posted by JohnyBoy
Yes i did answer your question about shiraz law....but it is again misleading to say its just about the economy. Despite reams of very well articulated pieces crafted by myself and bigpalacefan its also about defence(security), unemployment and rising poverty which usually increases crime, influence and power on the world stage and opportnities for our kids and grandkids to live and work abroad....there just isnt any rational argument for brexit in my humble opinion....unless you are financially positioned (i.e. short) for it. Shiraz law is that it's illegal to wine.
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Mapletree Croydon 04 May 16 2.03pm | |
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Originally posted by big_palace_fan
Was with respect to his comments that economics grads will be flipping burgers. The implication that a modern Degree is worth less than an old fashioned A level demonstrates a remarkable ignorance in my opinion. Hoof, try doing a modern A level with its ''multiple choice and help from a tutor''. You will change your opinion. Dumbing down is a myth. A better point could be that we have downgraded practical and technical skills way too much and have lost our apprenticeship schemes. That has been a true disaster.
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big_palace_fan 04 May 16 2.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
The implication that a modern Degree is worth less than an old fashioned A level demonstrates a remarkable ignorance in my opinion. Hoof, try doing a modern A level with its ''multiple choice and help from a tutor''. You will change your opinion. Dumbing down is a myth. A better point could be that we have downgraded practical and technical skills way too much and have lost our apprenticeship schemes. That has been a true disaster. Totally agree. Hoof, could you try telling me (as a student currently studying a masters in economics at one of the best universities in the world by any measure) what an economics degree actually involves?
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Mapletree Croydon 04 May 16 2.18pm | |
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Originally posted by big_palace_fan
Totally agree. Hoof, could you try telling me (as a student currently studying a masters in economics at one of the best universities in the world by any measure) what an economics degree actually involves? What, Hull?
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big_palace_fan 04 May 16 2.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
What, Hull? Yeah course mate. Havent you seen the rankings? Were miles better than harvard these days and that modern poly Oxford or whatever its called. LSE is a sports wear brand these days too and not even a uni (ellesse)
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 04 May 16 3.04pm | |
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Originally posted by big_palace_fan
You sound incredibly ignorant You've just destroyed any credibility you might have add with that arrogant, pompous and condescending comment. Well done you.
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