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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Jul 16 12.48pm
Sadly this thread is almost a facsimile of the Paris attack thread. Views are so entrenched and the same arguments just go round and round. Is it worth bothering? RIP. I'm leaving it at that.
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Shizzlehurst 15 Jul 16 12.48pm

Sadly this thread is almost a facsimile of the Paris attack thread. Views are so entrenched and the same arguments just go round and round. Is it worth bothering?

RIP. I'm leaving it at that.

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jul 16 12.49pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Sadly this thread is almost a facsimile of the Paris attack thread. Views are so entrenched and the same arguments just go round and round. Is it worth bothering? RIP. I'm leaving it at that. Well that's one bit of good news.
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Originally posted by nickgusset

Sadly this thread is almost a facsimile of the Paris attack thread. Views are so entrenched and the same arguments just go round and round. Is it worth bothering?

RIP. I'm leaving it at that.

Well that's one bit of good news.

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Kermit8 Hevon 15 Jul 16 12.49pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Never mind about all this who does what crap. We need practical solutions to this problem. Is this not a practical solution from my earlier post? Said it before: the military and world governments have to directly target the extreme and terrorist-inclined sects of Islam. There are Wahhabi schools in places like Indonesia that at this minute are brainwashing children to have a 'martyr's' end. The problem - not for me - is of course is that we would have to upset Saudi Arabia. Some would call that impractical but I am not sure entirely why apart from the oil side of it. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 15 Jul 16 12.49pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Never mind about all this who does what crap. We need practical solutions to this problem.

Is this not a practical solution from my earlier post?

Said it before: the military and world governments have to directly target the extreme and terrorist-inclined sects of Islam. There are Wahhabi schools in places like Indonesia that at this minute are brainwashing children to have a 'martyr's' end.

The problem - not for me - is of course is that we would have to upset Saudi Arabia. Some would call that impractical but I am not sure entirely why apart from the oil side of it.

Big chest and massive boobs

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leifandersonshair Newport 15 Jul 16 12.57pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger We will be in France in a few weeks so it's not just about Britain. We are at war with fanatics and they have sympathisers spread all over Europe. They need to be removed by all means necessary. Difficulty is always how to identify them. Intelligence aims to track these people from extremist websites, forums etc to take action before they make an attack. Trouble with 'lone wolf' attacks like this- could be some guy who spoke to no one, lurked on websites and never posted, and got angrier and crazier until he snapped. Bar imprisoning or monitoring every Muslim because they might harbor extremist views, how the heck do you stop them? At that point you need to monitor everyone, all the time- because anyone can snap, over religion, family issues, road rage, whatever. I've seen it suggested that the way to stop this particular TYPE of attack has already happened in most UK cities- pedestrianized areas with bollards etc for city centres.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

We will be in France in a few weeks so it's not just about Britain.
We are at war with fanatics and they have sympathisers spread all over Europe. They need to be removed by all means necessary.

Difficulty is always how to identify them. Intelligence aims to track these people from extremist websites, forums etc to take action before they make an attack.

Trouble with 'lone wolf' attacks like this- could be some guy who spoke to no one, lurked on websites and never posted, and got angrier and crazier until he snapped. Bar imprisoning or monitoring every Muslim because they might harbor extremist views, how the heck do you stop them? At that point you need to monitor everyone, all the time- because anyone can snap, over religion, family issues, road rage, whatever.

I've seen it suggested that the way to stop this particular TYPE of attack has already happened in most UK cities- pedestrianized areas with bollards etc for city centres.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Jul 16 1.00pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Well that's one bit of good news. Pish off Hrolf and give it a rest for a day eh?
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Shizzlehurst 15 Jul 16 1.00pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Well that's one bit of good news.

Pish off Hrolf and give it a rest for a day eh?

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jul 16 1.03pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Is this not a practical solution from my earlier post? Said it before: the military and world governments have to directly target the extreme and terrorist-inclined sects of Islam. There are Wahhabi schools in places like Indonesia that at this minute are brainwashing children to have a 'martyr's' end. The problem - not for me - is of course is that we would have to upset Saudi Arabia. Some would call that impractical but I am not sure entirely why apart from the oil side of it. More practical. When we rid ourselves of the need for oil, the Saudis will become irrelevant.
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15 Jul 16 1.03pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Is this not a practical solution from my earlier post?

The problem - not for me - is of course is that we would have to upset Saudi Arabia. Some would call that impractical but I am not sure entirely why apart from the oil side of it.

More practical.

When we rid ourselves of the need for oil, the Saudis will become irrelevant.

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jul 16 1.05pm
Originally posted by leifandersonshair Difficulty is always how to identify them. Intelligence aims to track these people from extremist websites, forums etc to take action before they make an attack. Trouble with 'lone wolf' attacks like this- could be some guy who spoke to no one, lurked on websites and never posted, and got angrier and crazier until he snapped. Bar imprisoning or monitoring every Muslim because they might harbor extremist views, how the heck do you stop them? At that point you need to monitor everyone, all the time- because anyone can snap, over religion, family issues, road rage, whatever. I've seen it suggested that the way to stop this particular TYPE of attack has already happened in most UK cities- pedestrianized areas with bollards etc for city centres. There is no such thing as a lone wolf attack. In these sort of incidence, it is a myth. The perpetrator is encouraged or helped by others within the wider group. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jul 2016 1.10pm)
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15 Jul 16 1.05pm

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

Difficulty is always how to identify them. Intelligence aims to track these people from extremist websites, forums etc to take action before they make an attack.

Trouble with 'lone wolf' attacks like this- could be some guy who spoke to no one, lurked on websites and never posted, and got angrier and crazier until he snapped. Bar imprisoning or monitoring every Muslim because they might harbor extremist views, how the heck do you stop them? At that point you need to monitor everyone, all the time- because anyone can snap, over religion, family issues, road rage, whatever.

I've seen it suggested that the way to stop this particular TYPE of attack has already happened in most UK cities- pedestrianized areas with bollards etc for city centres.

There is no such thing as a lone wolf attack. In these sort of incidence, it is a myth.
The perpetrator is encouraged or helped by others within the wider group.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jul 2016 1.10pm)

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 15 Jul 16 1.43pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger There is no such thing as a lone wolf attack. In these sort of incidence, it is a myth. The perpetrator is encouraged or helped by others within the wider group. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jul 2016 1.10pm) Like Britain First. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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Where you have to have an English ... 15 Jul 16 1.43pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There is no such thing as a lone wolf attack. In these sort of incidence, it is a myth.
The perpetrator is encouraged or helped by others within the wider group.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jul 2016 1.10pm)

Like Britain First.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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lankygit Lincoln 15 Jul 16 1.53pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 If we are going to generally blame Muslims/Islam for the 1% of nutters who follow the Wahhabi creed to its violent and child murdering ends then we will also have to blame Protestants and Loyalists for IRA bombs/killing back in the day for they too were part of a same religion. Said it before: the military and world governments have to directly target the extreme and terrorist-inclined sects of Islam. There are Wahhabi schools in places like Indonesia that at this minute are brainwashing children to have a 'martyr's' end. Edited by Kermit8 (15 Jul 2016 10.56am) Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Frankly, when 84 people have been butchered my thought are not about offending Muslims. My concern is for people's safety,especially my own family. We all know that every Muslim is not sharpening a knife to murder us but I always find it odd that when something like this happens, some people's first reaction is to point this out. Whilst I agree with both of you that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists, it is as plain as day that the vast majority of terrorists today are Muslims. I am a "lefty" with Muslim friends, and after the slaughter of 84 innocent people, plus hundreds injured, I am not concerned who I offend by saying so. Is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour? [Link]
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Lincoln 15 Jul 16 1.53pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

If we are going to generally blame Muslims/Islam for the 1% of nutters who follow the Wahhabi creed to its violent and child murdering ends then we will also have to blame Protestants and Loyalists for IRA bombs/killing back in the day for they too were part of a same religion.

Edited by Kermit8 (15 Jul 2016 10.56am)

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Frankly, when 84 people have been butchered my thought are not about offending Muslims.
My concern is for people's safety,especially my own family.

We all know that every Muslim is not sharpening a knife to murder us but I always find it odd that when something like this happens, some people's first reaction is to point this out.

Whilst I agree with both of you that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists, it is as plain as day that the vast majority of terrorists today are Muslims.

I am a "lefty" with Muslim friends, and after the slaughter of 84 innocent people, plus hundreds injured, I am not concerned who I offend by saying so.

Is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour? [Link]

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silvertop Portishead 15 Jul 16 1.58pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger More practical. When we rid ourselves of the need for oil, the Saudis will become irrelevant. Save that SA is the home to Mecca and Medina. Much hatred of the West that was said to be one of the important features that gave birth to Al Quieda was that, in the 1st Gulf War, some coalition troops had to be stationed in Arabia. The same principles apply to oil workers and exploitation of this resource by western companies. Infidels merely standing on holy soil was enough to inflame significant portions of the Islamic world. Imagine if you are proposing an attack on Arabia? You will ignite the entire Muslim world - moderate or otherwise - there are quite a lot of them. It will never happen.
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Portishead 15 Jul 16 1.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

More practical.

When we rid ourselves of the need for oil, the Saudis will become irrelevant.

Save that SA is the home to Mecca and Medina. Much hatred of the West that was said to be one of the important features that gave birth to Al Quieda was that, in the 1st Gulf War, some coalition troops had to be stationed in Arabia. The same principles apply to oil workers and exploitation of this resource by western companies. Infidels merely standing on holy soil was enough to inflame significant portions of the Islamic world.

Imagine if you are proposing an attack on Arabia? You will ignite the entire Muslim world - moderate or otherwise - there are quite a lot of them.

It will never happen.

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Kermit8 Hevon 15 Jul 16 2.18pm
The killer was delivery driver Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel from Nice. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 15 Jul 16 2.18pm

The killer was delivery driver Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel from Nice.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jul 16 2.35pm
Originally posted by pefwin Like Britain First. So predictable. There is no comparison and I'm not going to respond further to such nonsense. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jul 2016 2.38pm)
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15 Jul 16 2.35pm

Originally posted by pefwin

Like Britain First.

So predictable.

There is no comparison and I'm not going to respond further to such nonsense.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Jul 2016 2.38pm)

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