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View Cpfcprem's Profile Cpfcprem Flag 10 Aug 16 1.06pm Send a Private Message to Cpfcprem Add Cpfcprem as a friend

If you count just minutes of actual play prem league only and divide by goals and assists for last season the following is interesting, I have put martial in there to show bentekes worth and Zanuzaj to show bolasies worth

Benteke goal or assist every 1.4 games
Connor wickham goal or assist 1.8
Martial Man U 1.94 (60 million !)
Townsend 2
Bolasie 2.8
mata Man U 2.9
Sakho (West Ham) 2.8
Gayle 3
Sako cpfc 3.8
Berahino 5
Puncheon 5.8
Zanuzaj Man U 8
Zaha 9.2

Benteke worth 32 mill yep
Benteke , wickham, bolasie Townsend in a 442 yep
Or benteke with wickham to come on, Townsend bolasie in a 433 ,with zaha sako punch fighting for the final spot yep
Benteke needs to be fed as does wickham the pace of bolasie is ridiculous, as benteke is actually 5th in the prem league last season re goals to minutes bolasie is sporting a great return
Benteke is not a replacement for bolasie they compliment each other
Ps bolasie deal not looking so good now only 25 mill with add ons, and some awful forward on loan from Everton which means no more strikers signed after benteke and we still have to buy a proven prem winger to replace bolasie , Maghrez, Walcott martial mata hazard for 25 mill

 

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View Cpfcprem's Profile Cpfcprem Flag 10 Aug 16 1.08pm Send a Private Message to Cpfcprem Add Cpfcprem as a friend

Ain't going to happen, so punch and zaha ha are going to have to massively increase their quality return goals and assists,

 

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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 10 Aug 16 1.22pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

The CA has Palace fans contributing articles, they were inviting applications a few weeks ago.

The Bolasie piece is one of those.


ah OK. didn't know that.

ignore my post.

sure many did anyway

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Aug 16 1.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Yes it is a business decision, a business decision by the owners of CPFC.

Personally I think they've done more than enough for our support in their decisions.

Great loyalty but not very good logic.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Aug 16 2.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

So when Liverpool sold Suarez they showed a lack of ambition? Juve sell Pogba, Spurs sell Bale, Manure sell Ronaldo, Beckham. I could go on but i wont - why because its silly as is this argument.

I think the club has a player angling for a shot at a bigger club. There's been plenty of noise this past year. This is a player who is inconsistent - to say the least. We've bought a player with less tricks but a better track record of delivering a cross and scoring actual goals. Hopefully we will get a tricky attacking midfielder as well and we'll have a plan B this season.

Suarez engineered that move as he always has. They sold him because he left them no choice by biting someone.
You are talking about players being sold to one of the top clubs in the World in another country.
We are selling Bolasie to one of our rivals for mid table.

 

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View cpfccolin's Profile cpfccolin Flag Dorset 10 Aug 16 4.39pm Send a Private Message to cpfccolin Add cpfccolin as a friend

The difference is Man U, Chelsea, Tott, and so on have the money to go and buy more super stars when the sell their best players to replace them.

We cant go and buy who we want when we want SO we have to keep our best players

 

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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 10 Aug 16 9.19pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by Cpfcprem

If you count just minutes of actual play prem league only and divide by goals and assists for last season the following is interesting, I have put martial in there to show bentekes worth and Zanuzaj to show bolasies worth

Benteke goal or assist every 1.4 games
Connor wickham goal or assist 1.8
Martial Man U 1.94 (60 million !)
Townsend 2
Bolasie 2.8

mata Man U 2.9
Sakho (West Ham) 2.8
Gayle 3
Sako cpfc 3.8
Berahino 5
Puncheon 5.8
Zanuzaj Man U 8
Zaha 9.2

Benteke worth 32 mill yep
Benteke , wickham, bolasie Townsend in a 442 yep
Or benteke with wickham to come on, Townsend bolasie in a 433 ,with zaha sako punch fighting for the final spot yep
Benteke needs to be fed as does wickham the pace of bolasie is ridiculous, as benteke is actually 5th in the prem league last season re goals to minutes bolasie is sporting a great return
Benteke is not a replacement for bolasie they compliment each other
Ps bolasie deal not looking so good now only 25 mill with add ons, and some awful forward on loan from Everton which means no more strikers signed after benteke and we still have to buy a proven prem winger to replace bolasie , Maghrez, Walcott martial mata hazard for 25 mill

So we sell Bolasie who's worth a goal every 2.8 games and buy Townsend who's worth a goal every two games.

Surely this is a great signing.

They both play the same position, and doubt either would settle for a position on our bench.

So the stats show we have the better player and we've made a huge profit which will go towards buying Benteke...

Why can't people see this is good business.

From those stats you should be more annoyed that we let Gayle go for only £10M

 

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View Cpfcprem's Profile Cpfcprem Flag 11 Aug 16 12.38am Send a Private Message to Cpfcprem Add Cpfcprem as a friend

My point is that i would have liked to see benteke bolasie and townsend,
Townsend actually spent his time at newcastle on the right or behind the striker, bolasie as we know behind the striker or on the left,meaning punch zaha and sako playing for the other place, we ran into trouble last year as we needed another winger, pardew ended up playing mutch wide instead of lee who didnt overly shine when bolasie punch and sako got injured,
Did we really plan to sell bolasie to buy benteke ? Didnt we bid 25 for benteke a couple of weeks ago ? Also didnt we bid 20 for berhinio ? All before the rumour of bolasie going Why put a bid in if we didnt have the money ? i dont believe the plan was sell bolasie to get in benteke, mutch lee maybe to reduce wage bill and maybe get a bit of transfer fee back , re gayle i liked him i wanted him to stay, im not annoyed im dissapointed that i wont get to see benteke townsend bolasie zaha playing togeather i think it would have given us some fantastic options, and strengthen with proven prem talent the squad , i also find it refreashing to have competition thats what all the succesful clubs have,

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Aug 16 12.46am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Cpfcprem

My point is that i would have liked to see benteke bolasie and townsend,
Townsend actually spent his time at newcastle on the right or behind the striker, bolasie as we know behind the striker or on the left,meaning punch zaha and sako playing for the other place, we ran into trouble last year as we needed another winger, pardew ended up playing mutch wide instead of lee who didnt overly shine when bolasie punch and sako got injured,
Did we really plan to sell bolasie to buy benteke ? Didnt we bid 25 for benteke a couple of weeks ago ? Also didnt we bid 20 for berhinio ? All before the rumour of bolasie going Why put a bid in if we didnt have the money ? i dont believe the plan was sell bolasie to get in benteke, mutch lee maybe to reduce wage bill and maybe get a bit of transfer fee back , re gayle i liked him i wanted him to stay, im not annoyed im dissapointed that i wont get to see benteke townsend bolasie zaha playing togeather i think it would have given us some fantastic options, and strengthen with proven prem talent the squad , i also find it refreashing to have competition thats what all the succesful clubs have,

£25mil is not enough to pinch Benteke. It'll take £30mil or £32mil.

I'd like to see that we have sold Bolasie not because we can buy Benteke but we can buy Benteke AND fill/improve the other pieces in the squad jigsaw.

Benteke plus another forward
A number 10
Definitely a winger.

Those are more difficult with the fee for Benteke £5mil-£7mil higher and no £25mil and a possible £30mil in add-ons from selling Bolasie who wants a bigger challenge anyway.

Is it that difficult for people to see this? Let's hope it is the case and not keep the squad limited to no cover in 1 or 2 positions like last season.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (11 Aug 2016 12.47am)

 


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View Cpfcprem's Profile Cpfcprem Flag 11 Aug 16 2.04am Send a Private Message to Cpfcprem Add Cpfcprem as a friend

Glad we agree i truely dont believe bolasie was sold to buy benteke and then not replace him ,that wouldnt make sense, we would have the same amount of wingers as last year which as we knw wasnt enough,

However bolasie sold to bring in another striker a no ten and a winger makes sense, and i think your eye for tgr gaps is spot on

except for one thing i dont knw if you saw the stats on different players goals and assists ratios in my previous message but thats the bit that concerns me, 20 mil bahinio who actually spent much of his time at wba last season as a no 10 or wide assisted none and scored 1 un 5 thats less then bolasie, sako west ham closer but 15 mill and apoarently a injury issue, my fear is us finding a winger who can assist and score , no distespect at all to zaha or punch but a 1 in 9 or 1 in 6 isnt going to help benteke , we get a no 10 and a winger with both a 1 in 3 ratio for the 25 to 27 mill we get for bolasie thats two players for the price of one fantastic business but who ! Hence the list provided and comparisons , there aint alot out there readily available and what is will be expensive its not just an over inflated price for bolasie its everyone , exept townsend due to relegation clauses was a steal, i believe that the bolasie exit wasnt planned a sun journalist 2 weeks ago said zaha and bolasie upset re a promised contract review not happening, a week before bolasie was saying he couldnt wait for benteke bahinio or sako he knew them all, i think palace were going to splashthe cash lessons learnt after last year, at least 4 out and out wingers 3 strikers etc i think we would of had it all, what makes me think this is that its v late in the day to arrange for two strikers to come in and a winger to replace another winger who needs to be sold, if this had been plan a we would be out getting a replacemt fir bolasie before we sold him like we did with the keepers, bolasie has jumped perhaps initially over a wage row but leaves us needing 3 vital points from wba with our side from last year exept townsend for bolasie , with no fit prem experianced wingers and only 1 striker, pullis would love to get his side to kick us all over the park injure wickham and stuff zaha or townsend retribution for the 3 mill we won in court against him ,
I have total faith in ap and sp but it needs to happen asap

 

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View Aray's Profile Aray Flag South London 11 Aug 16 6.19am Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Suarez engineered that move as he always has. They sold him because he left them no choice by biting someone.
You are talking about players being sold to one of the top clubs in the World in another country.
We are selling Bolasie to one of our rivals for mid table.

I'm merely saying that even the biggest clubs in this country sell their best players. It's not a sign of ambition but sense. I think that Man Uband Real Madrid are rivals - - on a European platform. But look at Southampton do they lack ambition? If so I would like to be too...

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Aug 16 10.38am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

I'm merely saying that even the biggest clubs in this country sell their best players. It's not a sign of ambition but sense. I think that Man Uband Real Madrid are rivals - - on a European platform. But look at Southampton do they lack ambition? If so I would like to be too...

I understand your thinking but I find it odd that a club that claims to be going places sells one of their most "iconic" players. He and Zaha have been what Palace has been about the last few years and what has made us entertaining to watch. Regardless of stat's Bolasie has been a key ingredient in our success and to sell him at his peak represents a return to the dark days for me.
Obviously I hope this all works out for us and we spend the money on players who will take us further but I will only believe that when it happens and I will think very long and hard about wasting my hard earned money on attending games if we go down.

 

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