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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 05 Oct 16 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Let me clear this up for you all.

There is no "race" so there can be no racism. There is only racism in law which is designed to protect minorities and avoid conflict, but it has no scientific basis whatsoever.
Racist is a term that people use describe all kinds of prejudice ranging from religious to tribal,national,cultural and sometimes superficial physical differences but often it is just a political word that allows people to shut down an argument or try and gain advantage in a situation.
The reasons why people dislike or are suspicious of each other is often very complex and the simple term "racist", as well as being inaccurate, just doesn't cover it at all.

Thanks.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Oct 2016 1.17pm)

I suppose then, if we are peeling back layers of truth, then there is actually no law, for anything, either. That is made up too.

A bit of guidance is not always a bad thing though even if whatever it is one is being told about is somewhat illogical.

D-Day - 'Go and kill that family man with two kids for the Allies as he is wearing a German uniform and your enemy even though you also have two kids'

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Oct 16 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

I suppose then, if we are peeling back layers of truth, then there is actually no law, for anything, either. That is made up too.

A bit of guidance is not always a bad thing though even if whatever it is one is being told about is somewhat illogical.

D-Day - 'Go and kill that family man with two kids for the Allies as he is wearing a German uniform and your enemy even though you also have two kids'

Not following you on that one.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 05 Oct 16 1.46pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Let me clear this up for you all.

There is no "race" so there can be no racism. There is only racism in law which is designed to protect minorities and avoid conflict, but it has no scientific basis whatsoever.
Racist is a term that people use describe all kinds of prejudice ranging from religious to tribal,national,cultural and sometimes superficial physical differences but often it is just a political word that allows people to shut down an argument or try and gain advantage in a situation.
The reasons why people dislike or are suspicious of each other is often very complex and the simple term "racist", as well as being inaccurate, just doesn't cover it at all.

Thanks.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Oct 2016 1.17pm)

Not quite, race isn't a real thing, scientifically speaking, but that doesn't mean that the ideas of race aren't real, its just highlights the absurdity of racism as a whole.

Its still racist to discriminate against someone based on the colour of their skin, even if there is no scientific basis for race anymore. It just shows racists to be more ignorant that previously believed.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Not following you on that one.


Sometimes, for the good of humanity we have to accept the perceived existence of things which aren't perhaps real. That people can be racist. Apartheid another case in point.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 05 Oct 16 2.02pm

Originally posted by Kermit8


Sometimes, for the good of humanity we have to accept the perceived existence of things which aren't perhaps real. That people can be racist. Apartheid another case in point.

A lot of modern philosophy and neurology would argue that most of our existence is 'false' or hypereality and exists more because we 'believe it to be' than because of any tangible real existence.

Its a functional necessity of modern existence. We all believe in money as real, but in reality its actually paper and tokens, who's value only exists in the shared constructs and situated knowledges that comprise the belief in money.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Let me clear this up for you all.

There is no "race" so there can be no racism. There is only racism in law which is designed to protect minorities and avoid conflict, but it has no scientific basis whatsoever.
Racist is a term that people use describe all kinds of prejudice ranging from religious to tribal,national,cultural and sometimes superficial physical differences but often it is just a political word that allows people to shut down an argument or try and gain advantage in a situation.
The reasons why people dislike or are suspicious of each other is often very complex and the simple term "racist", as well as being inaccurate, just doesn't cover it at all.

Thanks.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Oct 2016 1.17pm)

It's easy to be glib about race if it's had no impact on your life - which is the messaage your post actually conveys.

Edited by blackpalacefan (05 Oct 2016 2.10pm)

 

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When I was a teenager I went to Brixton market to buy a reggae record I really wanted,the bloke on the stall told me"I'm not selling no record to no white boy"

I laughed and said whatever,went back to Norwood to get my mate (who was white) went back to Brixton and got the record,cos my mate bought all his records from him.

So Mr Blackpalacefan I have experienced racism.

By the way that's a true story ,but retold tongue in cheek.

And the record was "caught you in a lie" by Louise mark.
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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Oct 16 3.04pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Not quite, race isn't a real thing, scientifically speaking, but that doesn't mean that the ideas of race aren't real, its just highlights the absurdity of racism as a whole.

Its still racist to discriminate against someone based on the colour of their skin, even if there is no scientific basis for race anymore. It just shows racists to be more ignorant that previously believed.


I like that.

But what it really highlights is how lazy people are with language and concepts.
I would maintain that no one ever hated someone over their "race". It is about a who complex set of learned and natural behaviour that is often self serving and sometimes self protecting.
When it is used or instigated by certain individuals to further their own ends it can be a dangerous and corrosive thing but equally often, cooperation between groups is equally advantageous. There must be a trigger that sets off one or the other.

 

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Originally posted by blackpalacefan

It's easy to be glib about race if it's had no impact on your life - which is the messaage your post actually conveys.

Edited by blackpalacefan (05 Oct 2016 2.10pm)


How does "race" effect your life in 2016?

 

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 05 Oct 16 3.23pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Saying racism doesn't exist based on science is a bit mealy mouthed.

Call it colourist or whatever but some people are treated differently based on their colour. The UK is on the whole pretty good but let's not pretend that prejudice doesn't exist

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Oct 16 3.33pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Saying racism doesn't exist based on science is a bit mealy mouthed.

Call it colourist or whatever but some people are treated differently based on their colour. The UK is on the whole pretty good but let's not pretend that prejudice doesn't exist

I disagree. The colour of skin is not the issue. That is just an easy association for people to make and people generally do not like complexity.

 

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