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citizensmudge Flag midlands 16 Oct 16 12.43am

Bored reading some of the anti-AP comments and I haven't actually read anyone volley home the reason we lost against the Spam so here it is.James McArthur got caught ball watching for a split second,end of conversation.He has been the difference so far this season in mine and a lot of other peoples opinions but today his rare and very small mistake cost us a point. No one is perfect and the margins are that small, Benteke gets the fastest ever WC Qualifier goal in history and a hatrick but a few days later misses a penalty.If anyone had a right to apportion blame and start throwing toys around it would be the manager for several players under performing today.

 

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View MandurahEagle's Profile MandurahEagle Flag Mandurah 16 Oct 16 1.05am Send a Private Message to MandurahEagle Add MandurahEagle as a friend

You can't pin the blame for this loss on one player's lack of concentration. It seems that when Benteke has a bad game, then the rest of the team do too. The forward passing was atrocious that is why, it seems, when attacking, the ball was invariably passed back. The crosses were abysmal. When the ball did get to the Spammers end it was wasted.Punch needs to concentrate his training next week on passing the ball to a Palace player!

 

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View Croydonlad's Profile Croydonlad Flag sydenham 16 Oct 16 1.13am Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

Originally posted by MandurahEagle

You can't pin the blame for this loss on one player's lack of concentration. It seems that when Benteke has a bad game, then the rest of the team do too. The forward passing was atrocious that is why, it seems, when attacking, the ball was invariably passed back. The crosses were abysmal. When the ball did get to the Spammers end it was wasted.Punch needs to concentrate his training next week on passing the ball to a Palace player!

In bold best summing up of today

 

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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 16 Oct 16 2.34am

I don't want to hang Pardew just because we lose to a good team like West Ham who play better than on the day. It's not about losing the match. It's about West Ham being able to play like a team straight after the first whistle, while our lot - most of them - looked like they hadn't touched a football for weeks. I feel the same as I did watching us play West Brom in our first match after the season break. Pardew, for what ever reason, did not have the team ready. Just moments before their first goal it was just a question of time before they'd score. we were utterly crap. Hoofing it about, not being able to work the ball far, nt winning duels, mistakes galore, a Zaha miss in space with time, Ward's header back to Mandanda, etc. we played nowhere near how we were playing our last handful of games. And how many times it takes us a whole 45 minutes of a match to finally get things right? Not good enough! We are simply not good enough even at our best to keep giving opponents 45 minutes. We can't expect to keep coming back from goals down. Their manager out-witted AP - do I think we should sack AP? No. Not in our interest. But let's call a spade a spade? - end of rant. Do

 


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View twist's Profile twist Flag Miami, Florida 16 Oct 16 2.49am Send a Private Message to twist Add twist as a friend

Reason we lost is because Spam bought more intensity to the middle and wings, and we didnt have time or space to get our passing game going.

But back to benteke, he scored 3 for Belguim, sure it was against Gibraltar, but they were all with his feet. Just saying we are not utilizing his full abilities when we just aiming for his head.

 

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View Bangerparr's Profile Bangerparr Flag Perth 16 Oct 16 3.13am Send a Private Message to Bangerparr Add Bangerparr as a friend

I thought we seemed to be crowded out most of the time and consequently went for the long diagonal ball much more than we have been doing. West ham then had three big centre backs doing their best to keep Benteke off the ball. Every time the ball was put in the box it seemed very crowded also. I just wish Wickham had been able to get a little closer and above the ball for his last minute header.

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 16 Oct 16 6.58am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle

I don't want to hang Pardew just because we lose to a good team like West Ham who play better than on the day. It's not about losing the match. It's about West Ham being able to play like a team straight after the first whistle, while our lot - most of them - looked like they hadn't touched a football for weeks. I feel the same as I did watching us play West Brom in our first match after the season break. Pardew, for what ever reason, did not have the team ready. Just moments before their first goal it was just a question of time before they'd score. we were utterly crap. Hoofing it about, not being able to work the ball far, nt winning duels, mistakes galore, a Zaha miss in space with time, Ward's header back to Mandanda, etc. we played nowhere near how we were playing our last handful of games. And how many times it takes us a whole 45 minutes of a match to finally get things right? Not good enough! We are simply not good enough even at our best to keep giving opponents 45 minutes. We can't expect to keep coming back from goals down. Their manager out-witted AP - do I think we should sack AP? No. Not in our interest. But let's call a spade a spade? - end of rant. Do

Could not agree more! The first half was unbelievable, even a lot worse than the WBA game when we kicked off the season. Everyone was to blame and we made the opposition look like the German national side. How is it possible over & over to start our games so sloppy?

 

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View Mikep1981's Profile Mikep1981 Flag Sutton 16 Oct 16 7.19am Send a Private Message to Mikep1981 Add Mikep1981 as a friend

Ward should of been closer to cresswell for the cross and shouldn't turn his back! Which happens a lot.

 

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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 16 Oct 16 8.52am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Surely the reason we lost was because Benteke took the worst penalty in league history.
If he has cored we would have gone in 1-1 and I think we would have won.

 


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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 16 Oct 16 9.07am Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

We could blame the weather our passing game broke down in the heavy rain but to me the issue was in part we didn't have a leader out there. When things started to go wrong no one stepped up to bring the team together and lead the team. Damo was unusually quiet.

 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 16 Oct 16 9.19am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle

I don't want to hang Pardew just because we lose to a good team like West Ham who play better than on the day. It's not about losing the match. It's about West Ham being able to play like a team straight after the first whistle, while our lot - most of them - looked like they hadn't touched a football for weeks. I feel the same as I did watching us play West Brom in our first match after the season break. Pardew, for what ever reason, did not have the team ready. Just moments before their first goal it was just a question of time before they'd score. we were utterly crap. Hoofing it about, not being able to work the ball far, nt winning duels, mistakes galore, a Zaha miss in space with time, Ward's header back to Mandanda, etc. we played nowhere near how we were playing our last handful of games. And how many times it takes us a whole 45 minutes of a match to finally get things right? Not good enough! We are simply not good enough even at our best to keep giving opponents 45 minutes. We can't expect to keep coming back from goals down. Their manager out-witted AP - do I think we should sack AP? No. Not in our interest. But let's call a spade a spade? - end of rant. Do

This is the point - in nearly every game he has to make half-time substitutions because his formation/team was wrong in the first half. We've conceded first in 6 of our 8 games - this cannot keep happening.

 

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View superbeagle's Profile superbeagle Flag Vauxhall 16 Oct 16 9.21am Send a Private Message to superbeagle Add superbeagle as a friend

We definitely miss Dann's presence (as captain and one of the best centre backs in the league) both at the back and getting up the field and scoring. Will be good to have him back next week.

 

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