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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Nov 16 3.30pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Please don't

I don't think anyone would be in doubt as to what you would say or why.

I'm trying to work out if you are an Alf Garnett / Johnny Speight tribute act.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Nov 16 3.33pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

I read too much into it? This coming from someone whose whole premise here is that he tuned into ITV news, saw one too many non white faces out or the 3 or so people on camera, decided that there had to be liberal bias quota scheme behind their presence rather than ability, and that people watching might think it was 'foreign telly' despite the fact ITV news presenters all talk with cut glass English accents.

There are an awful lot of white newscasters on the news. I actually watched yesterday and everyone was white. Am I complaining about that? No.

I already tried to take this conversatoion in a direction of commonality rather than difference, I repeat:

"There is a lot in common between say the criminisation of certain words aka hate speech on the left and the intrusive nature of governments on the right. They all seek to control the population and it would serve people on both sides well to align themselves to that rather than be at loggerheads. As it stands it's easy to buy peoples votes on the cheap by appealing to their prejudices rather than holding governments to account. Of course this is rarely examined because people are so fixated on each other rather than bothering to find commonality."

Edited by blackpalacefan (27 Nov 2016 3.16pm)


But I don't necessarily want commonality with ideologies or attitudes that are questionable.
Once again. This thread was about politics and TV news bias and all that it encompasses. You have deliberately made it about something else, as any unbiased person will see by reading it back.

what I really hear you saying is that a person can't make an observation about the current state of a country he has lived in from birth without being called a racist.

And you wonder why people voted Brexit and Trump.

Anyone would think this thread was about you personally.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Nov 16 3.35pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I'm trying to work out if you are an Alf Garnett / Johnny Speight tribute act.

I'm not trying to work out what you are. It is obvious comrade. You are the bloke who starts all the pub fights but never throws a punch.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Nov 16 3.45pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


But I don't necessarily want commonality with ideologies or attitudes that are questionable.
Once again. This thread was about politics and TV news bias and all that it encompasses. You have deliberately made it about something else, as any unbiased person will see by reading it back.

what I really hear you saying is that a person can't make an observation about the current state of a country he has lived in from birth without being called a racist.

And you wonder why people voted Brexit and Trump.

Anyone would think this thread was about you personally.

Out-of interest, was it these sort of views that caused you leaving the BBS?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Nov 16 3.52pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Out-of interest, was it these sort of views that caused you leaving the BBS?

I haven't left the BBzzzz. But I never bother posting on the general threads. They are full of people like you with minority views.

Why aren't you on the BBzzzz echo chamber now?

 

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View blackpalacefan's Profile blackpalacefan Flag 27 Nov 16 3.54pm Send a Private Message to blackpalacefan Add blackpalacefan as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


But I don't necessarily want commonality with ideologies or attitudes that are questionable.
Once again. This thread was about politics and TV news bias and all that it encompasses. You have deliberately made it about something else, as any unbiased person will see by reading it back.

what I really hear you saying is that a person can't make an observation about the current state of a country he has lived in from birth without being called a racist.

And you wonder why people voted Brexit and Trump.

Anyone would think this thread was about you personally.

I haven't in any way told you that you can't say anything. You've said what you want and I've reacted to it how I want to.

I'm just disappointed that despite all being palace fans we have these 'foreign country' comments when talking about non whites. These individuals have likely lived their whole lives here too and have british accents, so no serious person watching the news would think them foreign, indeed it would be an insult to do so. Apparently it is more convenient to tell me how I'm supposed to react than to take my view for what it is. That of course is not how life works though.

In any case it would be better if I'd not contributed to begin with. I'm going to stick with the game threads from now on. Everyone is entitled to their views but i'm not sure that I'm benefiting from General. There's something depressing about it and nobody ever seems to gain anything or shift on anything in either direction so it's pointless really. One less foreign face to worry about now my friend .


Edited by blackpalacefan (27 Nov 2016 3.56pm)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Nov 16 3.54pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I haven't left the BBzzzz. But I never bother posting on the general threads. They are full of people like you with minority views.

Why aren't you on the BBzzzz echo chamber now?

Too many foreigners.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 27 Nov 16 4.07pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

I haven't in any way told you that you can't say anything. You've said what you want and I've reacted to it how I want to.

I'm just disappointed that despite all being palace fans we have these 'foreign country' comments when talking about non whites. These individuals have likely lived their whole lives here too and have british accents, so no serious person watching the news would think them foreign, indeed it would be an insult to do so. Apparently it is more convenient to tell me how I'm supposed to react than to take my view for what it is. That of course is not how life works though.

In any case it would be better if I'd not contributed to begin with. I'm going to stick with the game threads from now on. Everyone is entitled to their views but i'm not sure that I'm benefiting from General. There's something depressing about it and nobody ever seems to gain anything or shift on anything in either direction so it's pointless really. One less foreign face to worry about now my friend .


Edited by blackpalacefan (27 Nov 2016 3.56pm)

He has so much in common with the overly pc right-ons bbs'ers he riles against, and it's rather amusing that he can't see it.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Nov 16 4.10pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

I haven't in any way told you that you can't say anything. You've said what you want and I've reacted to it how I want to.

I'm just disappointed that despite all being palace fans we have these 'foreign country' comments when talking about non whites. These individuals have likely lived their whole lives here too and have british accents, so no serious person watching the news would think them foreign, indeed it would be an insult to do so. Apparently it is more convenient to tell me how I'm supposed to react than to take my view for what it is. That of course is not how life works though.

In any case it would be better if I'd not contributed to begin with. I'm going to stick with the game threads from now on. Everyone is entitled to their views but i'm not sure that I'm benefiting from General. There's something depressing about it and nobody ever seems to gain anything or shift on anything so it's pointless really. One less foreign face to worry about now my friend . Goodbye all and merry christmas .


Since I never said a word about the colour of newsreaders or their accents or them being foreigners which you seemed to have mostly made up in you mind, as you will see this if you read the thread back. It is not really for me to defend such a straw man argument. What I did do was answer questions that you asked in order to make this thread about race.
My observations were about representation and the disproportion there of in relation to the country as a whole and all the related politics. If you only want to see everything through the filter of your own agenda then I can't help you.
I can assure you that many people have concerns about the nature of politics in this country and how immigration is presented to the public and its purpose and effect. That should be clear by now.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Nov 16 4.14pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

He has so much in common with the overly pc right-ons bbs'ers he riles against, and it's rather amusing that he can't see it.

There's no need to be insulting Kermy.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (27 Nov 2016 4.14pm)

 

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View blackpalacefan's Profile blackpalacefan Flag 27 Nov 16 4.14pm Send a Private Message to blackpalacefan Add blackpalacefan as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

He has so much in common with the overly pc right-ons bbs'ers he riles against, and it's rather amusing that he can't see it.

Yes in many ways we all come to mirror what we dislike. It's a funny part of life. We all deserve our own interpretation of the world.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Nov 16 4.17pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Too many foreigners.

Too many dickheads.

 

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