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View masonic_palace's Profile masonic_palace Flag Gatport Airwick 29 Nov 16 12.49pm Send a Private Message to masonic_palace Add masonic_palace as a friend

Any other Southern commuters who thing this getting beyond stupid now?

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IMHO all three sides are wrong on this - the unions, Southern and the DfT.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 29 Nov 16 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

They're striking over who pushes a button. It's f***ing moronic.

 


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View nickgusset's Profile nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 29 Nov 16 12.52pm Send a Private Message to nickgusset Add nickgusset as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

They're striking over who pushes a button. It's f***ing moronic.

Bit of an over simplification.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

Bit of an over simplification.

It's really not. It would be far better if the RMT just admitted that it's about that and stop dressing it up (aka lying) with "this strike is about safety".

There are plenty of train services that are driver only.

"Aslef ordering their members" Aren't they supposed to work for the members, not order them around?

 


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Red Card - User has been banned Hoof Hearted 29 Nov 16 1.02pm

Originally posted by Stuk

They're striking over who pushes a button. It's f***ing moronic.

Exactly.

Why is it acceptable for London Underground drivers to control their doors with one button from their cab and it has been that way for decades without a problem or safety issue.... yet the RMT insist that a "Guard" must perform the function on Southern Rail trains for safety reasons?

Luddites.

 

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Wrong. And w***ers.

 


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Right. Definitely. Obviously

 

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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Exactly.

Why is it acceptable for London Underground drivers to control their doors with one button from their cab and it has been that way for decades without a problem or safety issue.... yet the RMT insist that a "Guard" must perform the function on Southern Rail trains for safety reasons?

Luddites.

And the Overground, not to mention countless other rail services.

The RMT challenged the move, claiming passenger safety would be compromised. Transport for London replied that at the time the East London Line, already one-man operated, has one door-related incident for every 7 million passengers, while the section of the network which currently uses conductors has one door-related incident for every 4 million passengers.

 


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the prices alone wind me up

 

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Originally posted by blackpalacefan

the prices alone wind me up

S'alright, they aren't going up. Sadiq promised.

Unless it's a travelcard, PAYG oyster card or contactless card etc. Then it will.

 


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Originally posted by Stuk

S'alright, they aren't going up. Sadiq promised.

Unless it's a travelcard, PAYG oyster card or contactless card etc. Then it will.

true. ... How do you know a politician is lying? Because they opened their mouth

Edited by blackpalacefan (29 Nov 2016 3.05pm)

 

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Originally posted by blackpalacefan

true. ... How do you know a politician is lying? Because they opened their mouth

Edited by blackpalacefan (29 Nov 2016 3.05pm)

Indeed.

CDs don't need a warning sticker, politicians do.

 


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