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View Sportyteacher's Profile Sportyteacher Flag London 13 Apr 17 3.11pm Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Just presenting the reported facts:

How real term spending cuts is projected to affect your local primary / secondary school:

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Meanwhile, ignoring the above, The Government continues to break the bank upon the creation of additional free schools sometimes to as much as five times the going rate on sites:

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National Audit Office report recently stated that only £6.7bn was needed just to bring all existing school buildings up to a 'satisfactory' standard yet it had chosen to prioritise spending billions on state-of-the-art free schools:

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No conclusive evidence to date that free schools (and academy) models outperform local maintained, as reinforced by recent reports published by cross party Education Select Committee, however core educational funding has undoubtedly been allotted to the former.

Any thoughts to share, especially from any of you working in the profession?

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 13 Apr 17 3.46pm

I don't think its been fit for purpose for at least 20 years or so.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Apr 17 6.34pm

The edumacation system is f***ed, staff morale at an all time low. That's why I got out. I can't be complicit in what the government have done to the curriculum and the stress levels put on kids and teachers regarding sats.

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 13 Apr 17 7.04pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Just presenting the reported facts:

How real term spending cuts is projected to affect your local primary / secondary school:

[Link]

Meanwhile, ignoring the above, The Government continues to break the bank upon the creation of additional free schools sometimes to as much as five times the going rate on sites:

[Link]

National Audit Office report recently stated that only £6.7bn was needed just to bring all existing school buildings up to a 'satisfactory' standard yet it had chosen to prioritise spending billions on state-of-the-art free schools:

[Link]

No conclusive evidence to date that free schools (and academy) models outperform local maintained, as reinforced by recent reports published by cross party Education Select Committee, however core educational funding has undoubtedly been allotted to the former.

Any thoughts to share, especially from any of you working in the profession?

It must be tough having a guaranteed wage and pension provision, in these days of austerity.

You feel so bad for teachers. Having choices in these days of 'gap employment' makes you the most poorly treated people in society.

 


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View Lakeview's Profile Lakeview Flag Lincoln 13 Apr 17 7.06pm Send a Private Message to Lakeview Add Lakeview as a friend

This year, my classroom had multiple ceiling leaks which meant buckets and bowls had to be left out during the working day & over weekends. There was black-spot mould throughout cupboards & parts of the ceiling. After more than 4 months of reminders, they finally fixed the dripping ceiling etc.
These mobile classrooms were brought in over 20 years ago as a "temporary measure." My spouse became sick of me smelling of mould after a day's work! This is before the new financial pressures hit.
The futile aspects of recent times mean I'm looking to take early retirement; the crazily detailed planning, record-keeping/data handling, the written conversation between teacher and pupil that is modern marking and deteriorating behaviour which is almost unpunished by some heads means I'm keen to escape. I'd advise anyone to avoid the profession for now. The present advertising campaign to enlist teachers shows there is a shortfall of applicants and is laughable-not reflecting life as a teacher at all. 72 hour weeks are a minimum to survival; 80 hours and I just about stay on top of things, but so much of that is of no benefit to pupils that I've had enough.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Apr 17 10.57pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Lakeview

This year, my classroom had multiple ceiling leaks which meant buckets and bowls had to be left out during the working day & over weekends. There was black-spot mould throughout cupboards & parts of the ceiling. After more than 4 months of reminders, they finally fixed the dripping ceiling etc.
These mobile classrooms were brought in over 20 years ago as a "temporary measure." My spouse became sick of me smelling of mould after a day's work! This is before the new financial pressures hit.
The futile aspects of recent times mean I'm looking to take early retirement; the crazily detailed planning, record-keeping/data handling, the written conversation between teacher and pupil that is modern marking and deteriorating behaviour which is almost unpunished by some heads means I'm keen to escape. I'd advise anyone to avoid the profession for now. The present advertising campaign to enlist teachers shows there is a shortfall of applicants and is laughable-not reflecting life as a teacher at all. 72 hour weeks are a minimum to survival; 80 hours and I just about stay on top of things, but so much of that is of no benefit to pupils that I've had enough.

Perfect argument for LESS government not more, part of the reason for these problems are the amount of red tape & bureaucracy you need file to get anything done, IE Maintenance, repairs etc.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Apr 17 11.06pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Perfect argument for LESS government not more, part of the reason for these problems are the amount of red tape & bureaucracy you need file to get anything done, IE Maintenance, repairs etc.

Hardly any red tape. Premises manager should be more than capable to manage.All down to juggling a shrinking budget. Building vs Kids needs.

In the past, authorities had their own buildings dept who would have provided necessary tradesmen / equipment. Now it's down to schools to sort out themselves. Also used to be an emergency pot of cash kept aside to assist schools if major work was needed.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Apr 17 11.09pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Hardly any red tape. Premises manager should be more than capable to manage.All down to juggling a shrinking budget. Building vs Kids needs.

In the past, authorities had their own buildings dept who would have provided necessary tradesmen / equipment. Now it's down to schools to sort out themselves. Also used to be an emergency pot of cash kept aside to assist schools if major work was needed.

Then surely you have a list of approved tradesman you can call on at short notice.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Apr 17 11.30pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Then surely you have a list of approved tradesman you can call on at short notice.

Me? I don't. The premises manager would have his list.

What I was getting at is its not red tape and bureaucracy that's the reason for schools not getting repairs done. It's money.

 

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View Sportyteacher's Profile Sportyteacher Flag London 14 Apr 17 12.35am Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

It must be tough having a guaranteed wage and pension provision, in these days of austerity.

You feel so bad for teachers. Having choices in these days of 'gap employment' makes you the most poorly treated people in society.

Any teacher out there will tell you that you go into the profession to support the best short and long term needs of children and young people FIRST AND FOREMOST. Guaranteed wage and pension provision is also a thing of the past. You're regrettably out of touch with the everyday workings of the profession.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Apr 17 12.48am

There are some on here who think that primary school is finger painting and colouring in. (if only, art is being pushed out of the primary curriculum)

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Apr 17 12.50am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

There are some on here who think that primary school is finger painting and colouring in. (if only, art is being pushed out of the primary curriculum)

Nearly 1 AM in the UK & the only people up posting? You guessed it Teachers !!!

 


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