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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 23 Jun 17 3.29pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by GladAllOver27


I did. Just concerns me. Whilst I want us to play more attractive football. Not at the cost of losing the defensive structure that was put in place by big Sam. As a fan I want to win. Barca outscore teams, palace won't. We have too many players that are not comfortable in possession of the football. Dann, Delaney, ward, Kelly and many more struggle on the ball. I think a lot of players are needed if we are to become a possession based team.

Which is why I asked if you'd read the article becuase nothing in it made me fear we'd give up defensive structure far from it. FdB seems to understand the importance of defensive structure and direct attacking play.

Mention Barcelona and everyone assumes we won't defend but I personally think that's a lazy connection.

He's not I hope thinking he going to turn us in to Barcelona over night but does seem very adept at coaching football systems. Looking at his success first at Ajax academy and then with the first team makes me think we will be in very good hands.

He'll want our defends to be able to find our wingers and the midfield will need to learn to move to create that space. He'll want diagonal passing rather than horizontal.

Sam done wonders for our defence but FdB is a defender through and through he understands it and that's the reason we shouldn't be worried.

I don't expect him to think he'll have us playing like Pep wants Man City to play. When they and us clearly haven't the players.


 

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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 23 Jun 17 3.32pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


I read that de Boer plays 4-3-3 with the ball, 4-5-1 without it, and likes a fast transition from defence to attack. The possession element occurs in the attacking third, when/if the initial break has been stifled. I love the sound of that!

Me too

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 23 Jun 17 3.40pm

Originally posted by celtavigoeagles

For those interested, this is the Philosophy of Frank De Boer.. I found it a very interesting read and exciting for him to come if it happens! And if not, it is still a good read!!!

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Well as long as it covers "I avoid relegation, therefore I am' he'll fit in quite nicely.

 


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View Mad4palace's Profile Mad4palace Flag 23 Jun 17 3.45pm Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Anybody know how he likes his centre forward to play? I assume Benteke will remain as first choice but he isn't really the kind to run the channels or come deep to get involved in the build up. Giroud is a big target man in a possession based team so it can work I suppose.

 

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 23 Jun 17 4.20pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Mad4palace

Anybody know how he likes his centre forward to play? I assume Benteke will remain as first choice but he isn't really the kind to run the channels or come deep to get involved in the build up. Giroud is a big target man in a possession based team so it can work I suppose.

If what I've read is true - that he likes to transition quickly from 4-5-1 in defence to 4-3-3 in attack - then I think he'll still be using Big Chris as a pivot man, just with better service as he'll be receiving balls he can play from the midfield, not hoofs from the back.

The other part is, though, that he likes to defend from the front, so Benteke will have to be more aware of his duties when we don't have the abll.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 23 Jun 17 4.28pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Well as long as it covers "I avoid relegation, therefore I am' he'll fit in quite nicely.


Hahaha

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 23 Jun 17 5.28pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Those type of articles have their value, but should also be taken with a pinch of salt.

Firstly, the idea that you can show exactly how a team plays through a few photos is obviously not right, but in any event how any team plays is conditioned by the standard and style of the opposition, and your own available players every bit as much as, if not far more than, the coaches philosophy.

Even if FDB brings the exact same set of training drills to Palace and doesn't adapt them at all, its only a framework, and will look very different when carried out by our squad against premier league opponents. Playing football just doesn't come with that type of instruction manual.

Secondly, who's to say that FDB is stuck in his ways? He'd be a fool not to say that he believes in the Ajax way when he's the Ajax coach, but pressing from the front doesn't suit our players at all. Thats why Benteke didn't suit Klopp at Liverpool. I can't see it suiting Wilf or Townsend either, whose increased workrate under Allardyce was noticeable, but not the same as pressing.

Given the clubs clear desire to get much more out of what we have already got at the club, I would expect FDB to cut his cloth accordingly, and whilst that may well result in us playing better stuff than we did under Allardyce, its not going result in us doing what Ajax did under him.

 

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View celtavigoeagles's Profile celtavigoeagles Flag Baiona 23 Jun 17 6.07pm Send a Private Message to celtavigoeagles Add celtavigoeagles as a friend

I am also happy that he will bring an element of respect such as Coppell had, he has done as much or more in the game than any of our players, this must bring players into training thinking this guy has really been at the top end of his career!

 


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View DutchEagleJohan's Profile DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 23 Jun 17 6.21pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

you are joking right? If anyone is good with the ball on his feet it's him. He needs to play far more direct the he often does.

Regular players not comfortable in possession:Ward, Tomkins, Kelly come to mind first.

However: I hope that FdB will adjust to English football more then he will want English Football to adjust to him. I saw a lot of Ajax under him and many games were boring as f***. I dread traveling across for any uneventful game you have forgotten about 3 days later.

Mind you: one of us Dutchies biggest downfalls is possession. It was brutally exposed with ManU under van Gaal. And even in the UEFA league final the statistics seem to indicate Ajax was on top when in real life they had no single chance whatsoever.

I maybe old fashioned but I do think football is about entertainment.


Originally posted by chateauferret

And Puncheon.


 

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View Direwolf's Profile Direwolf Flag Lincoln 23 Jun 17 6.38pm Send a Private Message to Direwolf Add Direwolf as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


Holy s***! He laid on that goal?
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That sort of passing is not needed here - hoofball is best

 

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View celtavigoeagles's Profile celtavigoeagles Flag Baiona 23 Jun 17 7.20pm Send a Private Message to celtavigoeagles Add celtavigoeagles as a friend

The good times are coming, I just think if this happens we will remember this guy for a long time!

 


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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 23 Jun 17 7.57pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Regular players not comfortable in possession:Ward, Tomkins, Kelly come to mind first.

Regular players not comfortable: Hennessey

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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