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In these days of political correctness I wasn't expecting this
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If they can ban the bikini, why can't we ban the veil? Especially when there is actually a somewhat credible argument that they pose a potential security threat?

 


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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
If they can ban the bikini, why can't we ban the veil? Especially when there is actually a somewhat credible argument that they pose a potential security threat?

We can. The European court has upheld the ban on the basis of the rights of others.

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 12 Jul 17 9.08am

It's just another small example of how multi-culturalism is problematic and failing.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Jul 17 10.45am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

The veil is not appropriate in any modern society.

It reminds me of the Handmaids Tale.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 12 Jul 17 11.20am

I dont see a problem with banning solid veils, my problem is more that the populartiy for this is based in anti muslim rheortic and prejudice concocted with rationalised hypothesis. We should also be banning masks, balaclava, ski masks etc.

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I dont see a problem with banning solid veils, my problem is more that the populartiy for this is based in anti muslim rheortic and prejudice concocted with rationalised hypothesis. We should also be banning masks, balaclava, ski masks etc.

Agreed.

I see no reason to ban it specifically, but I do agree it should not be exempt from places where faces must be uncovered for security purposes (banks, border controls, etc). In other words, it should have no special status either for or against, it's just another face covering. Personally I'd like to see all face covering banned (ski masks, balaclavas, etc) in all but exceptional circumstances - it tends to be used only to intimidate or avoid identification.

 

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I dont see a problem with banning solid veils, my problem is more that the populartiy for this is based in anti muslim rheortic and prejudice concocted with rationalised hypothesis. We should also be banning masks, balaclava, ski masks etc.

True. We've had ladies walking around London with them since the 70's and it's only become a problem relatively recently.

I'd still ban it though given its connotations to inequality and patriarch domination. Plus, it looks fvcking stupid and anti-social.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Jul 17 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I dont see a problem with banning solid veils, my problem is more that the populartiy for this is based in anti muslim rheortic and prejudice concocted with rationalised hypothesis. We should also be banning masks, balaclava, ski masks etc.

The veil represents far more than just a face covering thougth and that cannot be overlooked.

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 12 Jul 17 12.24pm

I believe the Quran only asks for persons to dress modestly; therefore it is solely a cultural more.

But as Jamie suggests if there were to be a blanket ban should other face covers? Should motorcycle helmets be banned and therefore motorbikes?

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 12 Jul 17 1.40pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I dont see a problem with banning solid veils, my problem is more that the populartiy for this is based in anti muslim rheortic and prejudice concocted with rationalised hypothesis. We should also be banning masks, balaclava, ski masks etc.

Impressive sentence JM

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 12 Jul 17 1.49pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The veil represents far more than just a face covering thougth and that cannot be overlooked.

Indeed, but I don't see a lot of right wingers supporting wider women's rights from access to abortion, rape conviction rates and services in the UK, the disparity in pay despite the equal act 40 odd years ago.

 


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