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Mr Fenandes 23 Jul 17 11.57am
I wonder if Punch could play wingback. He was sort of semi-successful at times as a deep lying playmaker last season, but the middle is a difficult area for him to operate, he seems to get more success out wide (due to his lack of aerial quality in the centre) but lacks the pace to play a winger in a 4-3-3. In a 3-4-3 He might form a nice partnership with Townsend on the left. I don't think he's the toughest tackler in town but his new role as captain might see him step it up a gear and build on moments of defensive quality he briefly showed last season. Check out our Croydon-based football comedy series 'Road to F.A. Cup'! All episodes available FREE here: [Link]
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23 Jul 17 11.57am

I wonder if Punch could play wingback. He was sort of semi-successful at times as a deep lying playmaker last season, but the middle is a difficult area for him to operate, he seems to get more success out wide (due to his lack of aerial quality in the centre) but lacks the pace to play a winger in a 4-3-3.

In a 3-4-3 He might form a nice partnership with Townsend on the left. I don't think he's the toughest tackler in town but his new role as captain might see him step it up a gear and build on moments of defensive quality he briefly showed last season.

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Dan89 Se25 23 Jul 17 12.10pm
Originally posted by Mr Fenandes I wonder if Punch could play wingback. He was sort of semi-successful at times as a deep lying playmaker last season, but the middle is a difficult area for him to operate, he seems to get more success out wide (due to his lack of aerial quality in the centre) but lacks the pace to play a winger in a 4-3-3. In a 3-4-3 He might form a nice partnership with Townsend on the left. I don't think he's the toughest tackler in town but his new role as captain might see him step it up a gear and build on moments of defensive quality he briefly showed last season. Puncheon as wingback would be disastrous, ATM Townsend has the engine to play that wingback role. I'd still prefer him in that right forward role. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 23 Jul 17 12.10pm

Originally posted by Mr Fenandes

Puncheon as wingback would be disastrous, ATM Townsend has the engine to play that wingback role. I'd still prefer him in that right forward role.

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coulsdoneagle London 23 Jul 17 12.23pm
Another question is ask is Schlupp or PVA before the preseason is assumed it was going to be Patrick with Schlupp covering both out wide and full back. It appears that Frank likes Schlupp he has started with him both games.
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London 23 Jul 17 12.23pm

Another question is ask is Schlupp or PVA before the preseason is assumed it was going to be Patrick with Schlupp covering both out wide and full back. It appears that Frank likes Schlupp he has started with him both games.

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CPFC/SCCC Sutton 23 Jul 17 12.29pm
Originally posted by coulsdoneagle Another question is ask is Schlupp or PVA before the preseason is assumed it was going to be Patrick with Schlupp covering both out wide and full back. It appears that Frank likes Schlupp he has started with him both games. Although it's assumed that PVA would suit the wingback role, I think schlupp played in that role more in his career than PVA. I personally prefer schlupp. Andy Johnson Magic, He wears a Magic Hat When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!
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Sutton 23 Jul 17 12.29pm

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

Although it's assumed that PVA would suit the wingback role, I think schlupp played in that role more in his career than PVA. I personally prefer schlupp.

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NickinOX Sailing country. 23 Jul 17 12.41pm
Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC [Link] Found this very interesting the strengths and weaknesses of 3-4-3 and how it was used by Ajax in 1970's Thanks for the link. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 23 Jul 17 12.41pm

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

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Found this very interesting the strengths and weaknesses of 3-4-3 and how it was used by Ajax in 1970's

Thanks for the link.

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MrCParrot Taunton 23 Jul 17 12.41pm
Originally posted by bexleydave Townsend is no wing-back and needs to be played where he does his best work, opposite Zaha with Benteke in the middle. Agreed but as I understand 343 versus 352 is that Andros would be RM rather than RWB or RW. If Andros as you suggest pushes up which might make sense if he can improve his finishing then we don't have much cover at RM. Maybe Chungy and Sako until we can blood Wan-Bissaka or buy better. Parrot Mr Cadbury's Parrot says "Hello"
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Taunton 23 Jul 17 12.41pm

Originally posted by bexleydave
Townsend is no wing-back and needs to be played where he does his best work, opposite Zaha with Benteke in the middle.

Agreed but as I understand 343 versus 352 is that Andros would be RM rather than RWB or RW.

If Andros as you suggest pushes up which might make sense if he can improve his finishing then we don't have much cover at RM. Maybe Chungy and Sako until we can blood Wan-Bissaka or buy better.

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Dan89 Se25 23 Jul 17 1.01pm
Originally posted by MrCParrot Agreed but as I understand 343 versus 352 is that Andros would be RM rather than RWB or RW. If Andros as you suggest pushes up which might make sense if he can improve his finishing then we don't have much cover at RM. Maybe Chungy and Sako until we can blood Wan-Bissaka or buy better. Parrot 3-5-2 would make more sense , give us that extra midfielder but often when Chelsea used it, they went with 2 defensive midfielders. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 23 Jul 17 1.01pm

Originally posted by MrCParrot

Agreed but as I understand 343 versus 352 is that Andros would be RM rather than RWB or RW.

If Andros as you suggest pushes up which might make sense if he can improve his finishing then we don't have much cover at RM. Maybe Chungy and Sako until we can blood Wan-Bissaka or buy better.

Parrot

3-5-2 would make more sense , give us that extra midfielder but often when Chelsea used it, they went with 2 defensive midfielders.

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Jul 17 1.26pm
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE Back 3 Dann,Milivojevic and Tomkins Midfield Schlupp,Loftus-Cheek,Puncheon,PVA Strikers Zaha,Benteke and Townsend Interesting line up Danger. Good thread now lads. Amazing what you could do with out spending fortunes. Cabaye on bench as well. Are Schlupp and PVA comfortable with both feet.? Palace 13th 2017/18.
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Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Jul 17 1.26pm

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Back 3 Dann,Milivojevic and Tomkins

Midfield Schlupp,Loftus-Cheek,Puncheon,PVA

Strikers Zaha,Benteke and Townsend

Interesting line up Danger.
Good thread now lads.
Amazing what you could do with out spending fortunes.
Cabaye on bench as well.
Are Schlupp and PVA comfortable with both feet.?

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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matthau South Croydon 23 Jul 17 1.36pm
nah, Mili def doesn't want Def job, will be a matter of time before he becomes a liability there. Pretty sure RdB will pref Tompkins over Dann too considering Tompkins is slightly younger and a little better on the ball.
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matthau

South Croydon 23 Jul 17 1.36pm

nah, Mili def doesn't want Def job, will be a matter of time before he becomes a liability there. Pretty sure RdB will pref Tompkins over Dann too considering Tompkins is slightly younger and a little better on the ball.

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bexleydave Barnehurst 23 Jul 17 1.42pm
Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC [Link] Found this very interesting the strengths and weaknesses of 3-4-3 and how it was used by Ajax in 1970's Now that article makes no mention of wing-backs whatsoever (the wide midfield players designated X6 and X7), but has the DM (X4) dropping back when the CBL or CBR (X2 and X3) are pulled out wide and the AM (X8) dropping deeper to cover. It just talks of X6 and X7 (the wide midfielders), pressuring out wide. It also talks of the two wide forward players (X9 and X11) putting in crosses; we have none of that because we're playing Zaha and Townsend 'inverted', so they keep cutting in, which is why Benteke is getting no service. Far be it from me to tell Frank how to do his job, but perhaps it's him that needs to have a read of that article. Edited by bexleydave (23 Jul 2017 1.42pm) Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 23 Jul 17 1.42pm

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

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Found this very interesting the strengths and weaknesses of 3-4-3 and how it was used by Ajax in 1970's

Now that article makes no mention of wing-backs whatsoever (the wide midfield players designated X6 and X7), but has the DM (X4) dropping back when the CBL or CBR (X2 and X3) are pulled out wide and the AM (X8) dropping deeper to cover. It just talks of X6 and X7 (the wide midfielders), pressuring out wide. It also talks of the two wide forward players (X9 and X11) putting in crosses; we have none of that because we're playing Zaha and Townsend 'inverted', so they keep cutting in, which is why Benteke is getting no service. Far be it from me to tell Frank how to do his job, but perhaps it's him that needs to have a read of that article.

Edited by bexleydave (23 Jul 2017 1.42pm)

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DANGERCLOSE london 23 Jul 17 3.15pm
Originally posted by alaneagle1 Interesting line up Danger. Good thread now lads. Amazing what you could do with out spending fortunes. Cabaye on bench as well. Are Schlupp and PVA comfortable with both feet.? Thanks,Schlupp is versatile so he should be ok on the right side, i think cabaye does better coming on as a sub but i think he leave this season. For the 3-4-3 to work we need faster players especially at right and left CB so hoping we get in Chambers and Riedewald in.
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london 23 Jul 17 3.15pm

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Interesting line up Danger.
Good thread now lads.
Amazing what you could do with out spending fortunes.
Cabaye on bench as well.
Are Schlupp and PVA comfortable with both feet.?

Thanks,Schlupp is versatile so he should be ok on the right side, i think cabaye does better coming on as a sub but i think he leave this season.

For the 3-4-3 to work we need faster players especially at right and left CB so hoping we get in Chambers and Riedewald in.

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CPFC/SCCC Sutton 25 Jul 17 9.59pm
We want to be able to play 3-4-3 and 4-3-3 (3-4-3) Hennessy Tomkins Dann Riedewald New rwb PVA Luka Cabaye Townsend Benteke Zaha 4-3-3 Hennessy Ward Tomkins Riedewald Schlupp Luka Loftus-cheek Puncheon Zaha Benteke Townsend Andy Johnson Magic, He wears a Magic Hat When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!
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Sutton 25 Jul 17 9.59pm

We want to be able to play 3-4-3 and 4-3-3
(3-4-3)
Hennessy
Tomkins
Dann
Riedewald
New rwb
PVA
Luka
Cabaye
Townsend
Benteke
Zaha

4-3-3

Hennessy
Ward
Tomkins
Riedewald
Schlupp
Luka
Loftus-cheek
Puncheon
Zaha
Benteke
Townsend

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