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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 03 Jun 19 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Just copying your style Maple old son in between HR & you're diplomatic work in Albania,Macedonia or other Balkan hot spots you visit.

What makes you think I visit, or have visited, Albania or Macedonia? I think your stint in the US has resulted in map myopia.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No-one should accept a vote which was compromised by Russian interference. However the Democrats are now 100% concentrated on Trump's failings and not on that, whereas Trump still routinely criticises Hilary etc.

Trump is so objectionable, and downright dangerous and doesn't observe any of the conventional diplomatic niceties that I fail to see why we should not respond in the same way. Only by doing so would we stand a chance of reversing this idiocy.

Flattering him is all he wants and we belittle ourselves by doing so. I am 100% with Khan and his comments. Well done by him for calling him out.

I did not mention the "far right" in my post. Trump isn't really far right because he isn't really anything but Trump, but he draws support from them and they manipulate him. Puppets don't make good leaders.

You really need to give up on the Russian bulls***!

The people put the x on the ballot paper not the Russians!

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

What makes you think I visit, or have visited, Albania or Macedonia? I think your stint in the US has resulted in map myopia.

Well you do come across on here that you've done everything and been everywhere!

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 03 Jun 19 5.07pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cpfc_chap

Well you do come across on here that you've done everything and been everywhere!

Really?

Some people are just lucky I guess.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Jun 19 5.09pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Because people are not happy with their lot, for a variety of reasons, and it’s an outlet. It’s existence doesn’t make them right.

You’re far too clued up to really believe Trump and Farage are men of the people surely Hrolf?

Of course I don't, but they are the enemy of the enemy.

I believe that people have very real concerns about where this country is heading and they will support anyone who supports that position.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 Jun 2019 5.09pm)

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

It's depends on how you define it. One thing for sure is neither are 'career politicians' unlike the majority who have gone straight to government from education and will do what they can to stay there. Trump and Farage are not globalists and believe in the people of nation states which resonates.

I’m hesitant to comment too much on Trump as I don’t follow American politics anywhere near as much and can’t claim to know much about the history of his politics.

My belief is that Farage believes in whatever gains him popularity at the time; he may not be a career politician, but he’s learned to play the game as well as anyone. I don’t have any glimmer of a belief that he gives a s*** about the majority of the public.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Of course I don't, but they are the enemy of the enemy.

I believe that people have very real concerns about where this country is heading and they will support anyone who supports that position.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 Jun 2019 5.09pm)

A fair summary, but to me Trump/Farage just represent another arm of the establishment - they’re opportunists capitalising on people’s frustrations, saying all of the right things with very little in the way of meaningful anti-establishment change.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 03 Jun 19 5.15pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by BarEagle

Has anybody noticed Trump is a Palace fan?! He is wearing a Palace tie (2nd picture down). No wonder he is so happy.

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I hadn't realised they make them so long.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Jun 19 5.17pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by cpfc_chap

Well you do come across on here that you've done everything and been everywhere!

It's called lying at best and delusional at worst.

At least he is polite and has considered opinions. That has got to be worth something on the internet.

It's just a pity that he such a lefty apologist.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Jun 19 5.21pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

A fair summary, but to me Trump/Farage just represent another arm of the establishment - they’re opportunists capitalising on people’s frustrations, saying all of the right things with very little in the way of meaningful anti-establishment change.

What else could one hope for?

Terrorists? Hitler?

We have to be careful what wish for. I'm for change through public consensus.

 

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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I’m hesitant to comment too much on Trump as I don’t follow American politics anywhere near as much and can’t claim to know much about the history of his politics.

My belief is that Farage believes in whatever gains him popularity at the time; he may not be a career politician, but he’s learned to play the game as well as anyone. I don’t have any glimmer of a belief that he gives a s*** about the majority of the public.

What does 'play the game' mean? Being a successful politician – one of the most influential in a generation? The majority voted for Brexit so I'd say that he is in the side of it.

Edited by Penge Eagle (03 Jun 2019 5.52pm)

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 03 Jun 19 5.50pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

What does 'play the game' mean? Being a successful politician – one of the most influential in a generation? The majority voted for Brexit so I'd say that he does give a s***.

Telling people what they want to hear would be an example of playing the game - being a ‘successful’ politician isn’t proof to the contrary - see Tony Blair.

The fact a majority voted for Brexit doesn’t prove anything in relation to Farage’s motives.

 

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