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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jul 19 9.47am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Have to think the email was leaked by the Russians.

Perhaps but what is the end game? Trump and Johnson are close this will not strain their relationship as they both dislike the ambassador. The ambassador only has 6 months left so if Johnson is going to PM he could rotate him out without having to explain why so I don't see a plot to oust him is even necessary.

Maybe there is no end game! at the moment I just think its mischief making by someone because they can.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jul 19 3.04pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Well he's gone now. According to the BBC Johnson's failure to publicly support him was the final straw,

BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said: "Failing to back Darroch last night was the first major act of the still hypothetical Johnson premiership that led to his resignation.

However I think her colleague Nick Bryant was more accurate.

"It wasn't his more colourful remarks on Twitter that really ended Sir Kim's time, but Mr Trump's public announcement that he would no longer work with him.

The effects of that were felt immediately. There was a banquet that Sir Kim was immediately dis-invited from. Next, he couldn't attend an event with minister Liam Fox.

It was clear he was being frozen out and for an ambassador access is everything. Without it, it's impossible to do the job."

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Jul 19 3.49pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Perhaps but what is the end game? Trump and Johnson are close this will not strain their relationship as they both dislike the ambassador. The ambassador only has 6 months left so if Johnson is going to PM he could rotate him out without having to explain why so I don't see a plot to oust him is even necessary.

Maybe there is no end game! at the moment I just think its mischief making by someone because they can.

I just suspect the Ruskies are showing how much they can breach what would be supposedly secret communications.
I believe diplomatic messages would be covered by the official secrets Act - whoever leaked will have to go. Britain has been in a diplomatic row with Russia for as long as I can remember. Britain need to up their game.

 


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View corkery's Profile corkery Flag Cork City 10 Jul 19 5.20pm Send a Private Message to corkery Add corkery as a friend

Something similar happened under Labour. The UK embassador to Uzbekistan was forced out over reporting that the Americans were torturing people. The Americans didn't agree...

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 10 Jul 19 6.43pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

If you cant do the time and all that!
If the guy didn't have the balls to tell him face to face then tough s*** on him.
Trump would probably have shook his hand and had a brandy filled with respect.
If I slagged of one of my firms clients in an email and it was seen by the wrong person I would be for the high jump.
Boris was correct on how hes played it.
The guy will bring us closer to the usa

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jul 19 6.53pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

People are pointing the finger at Boris for the Ambassadors resignation, this is complete nonsense.

Boris has not been in government for a year so cannot be accountable for this. If and when he becomes PM he will have to make or confirm lots of appointments, at that point he would have had to make a decision until then it is up to the May government.

Normally when an ambassador is in trouble the person to carry the political can is the Foreign Secretary oh wait isn't that Hunt. Why is no on calling for his head.

 


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View Uncle Joe's Profile Uncle Joe Flag Tunbridge Wells 10 Jul 19 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Uncle Joe Add Uncle Joe as a friend

If we get any closer to the US, God help us!

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 10 Jul 19 7.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Uncle Joe

If we get any closer to the US, God help us!

Well God would have to help us as the Atlantic ocean does rather get in the way.

Personally, I'm of the view that where we are is about right.

Not implicated in the dubious direction the EU project is going down....Yet a friend both to it and the US.

It makes sense for us to slightly favour the US over the EU but not too much. An ally who isn't publicly criticising is much more likely to have the ear of a president than one who publicly argues and then has zero impact.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 10 Jul 19 7.41pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Even as a remoaner I still trust the
usa more than the EU to have our back.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Jul 19 9.24pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Uncle Joe

If we get any closer to the US, God help us!

When the chips are down I'd back the USA any day over most of our European neighbours especially the French & Germans.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Jul 19 4.56am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

If you cant do the time and all that!
If the guy didn't have the balls to tell him face to face then tough s*** on him.
Trump would probably have shook his hand and had a brandy filled with respect.
If I slagged of one of my firms clients in an email and it was seen by the wrong person I would be for the high jump.
Boris was correct on how hes played it.
The guy will bring us closer to the usa

For goodness sake!

It isn't his job to say such things to his face! It's his job to report his observations, in confidence, to the British government. The Government then decide what diplomatic stance to adopt, and he follows it, whatever his personal opinion might be.

Johnson in failing to support him has caused questions to be asked about his own commitment to diplomacy.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 11 Jul 19 6.02am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

For goodness sake!

It isn't his job to say such things to his face! It's his job to report his observations, in confidence, to the British government. The Government then decide what diplomatic stance to adopt, and he follows it, whatever his personal opinion might be.

Johnson in failing to support him has caused questions to be asked about his own commitment to diplomacy.

And that personal opinion had nothing to do with diplomacy so clearly he dropped the ball and has now been subbed!
Boris is going to be PM and will have much bigger fish to fry in the coming months and years with the POTUS.
Sticking up for a very seemingly sloppy diplomat is a stickleback so he threw it back.

 

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