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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Feb 20 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It’ll be interesting now having it explained how this impeachment never had a chance of going through from the same people who were desperate for it to happen.

No need.

No one was desperate to impeach him. Many felt they had no other option under the US constitution.

The Democrats never expected it to succeed and said so from the beginning. My understanding is that faced a dilemma. If they declined to impeach they risked a backlash from their own supporters for failing to do their constitutional duty. And duty it was. Pelosi had resisted impeachment for a long time as she feared it could be used against her party. She knew that whilst Trump was guilty of many inappropriate acts the GOP would never vote to impeach him.

I am not so sure that Trump didn't engineer this. It would be typically devious of him.

 


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.TUX. Flag 05 Feb 20 10.15pm

''Alexa, who is still the President of the United States?''

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Well that’s politics. You’ve told us often enough that “they” know best. They are there to make decisions for everyone else.

US politics is nothing like UK politics.

In my opinion it is no longer fit for purpose and depends on interest groups and their ability to fund campaigns to function. This is not government of the people by the people. It's government of the people by the people with the most money.

I think they face huge problems and I see no way to solve them.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No need.

No one was desperate to impeach him. Many felt they had no other option under the US constitution.

The Democrats never expected it to succeed and said so from the beginning. My understanding is that faced a dilemma. If they declined to impeach they risked a backlash from their own supporters for failing to do their constitutional duty. And duty it was. Pelosi had resisted impeachment for a long time as she feared it could be used against her party. She knew that whilst Trump was guilty of many inappropriate acts the GOP would never vote to impeach him.

I am not so sure that Trump didn't engineer this. It would be typically devious of him.

The same way Clinton engineered his impeachment? Or was that another underhand move by the dastardly Republicans?

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 05 Feb 20 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In my opinion it is no longer fit for purpose and depends on interest groups and their ability to fund campaigns to function. This is not government of the people by the people. It's government of the people by the people with the most money.

Not really. Money helps, obviously, but Hillary outspent Trump (in Florida for example I believe it was 50-1) and still lost.

Ditto with the Remain Campaign here.

That is what makes politics so interesting at the moment. Leave was meant to lose, as was Trump. Did not happen despite all the supposed 'experts' telling us it was going to. Still amuses me now to see all the people telling us that Trump would not even win the nomination, let alone make it to the Whitehouse.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Feb 20 10.32pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

US politics is nothing like UK politics.

In my opinion it is no longer fit for purpose and depends on interest groups and their ability to fund campaigns to function. This is not government of the people by the people. It's government of the people by the people with the most money.

I think they face huge problems and I see no way to solve them.

You wouldn't be saying that if Clinton had won.

So transparent.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The same way Clinton engineered his impeachment? Or was that another underhand move by the dastardly Republicans?

Clinton had no possible benefit from being impeached.

Not so Trump. He can present it as a scam, witch hunt etc etc and use it as a diversion to claim he is a victim. The gullibility of some of the US electorate never ceases to amaze me.

His campaign manager is already tweeting exactly that and Trump will "address the nation" tomorrow, no doubt with more of the same.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You wouldn't be saying that if Clinton had won.

So transparent.

Oh I would.

I have been saying it for many years. It's just got worse under Trump and more obvious.

It was a miracle that Obama managed to get elected with so much garbage being thrown at him. I don't think that would happen today.

 


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Originally posted by Matov

Not really. Money helps, obviously, but Hillary outspent Trump (in Florida for example I believe it was 50-1) and still lost.

Ditto with the Remain Campaign here.

That is what makes politics so interesting at the moment. Leave was meant to lose, as was Trump. Did not happen despite all the supposed 'experts' telling us it was going to. Still amuses me now to see all the people telling us that Trump would not even win the nomination, let alone make it to the Whitehouse.

It's not a partisan matter. It's a systemic matter.

The one thing that I agreed with Trump about was the need to "drain the swamp". Unfortunately he wants to only drain that part of the swap that disagrees with him and replace it with another that operates directly under his control, when it needs to be given back to the people's representatives who are free of any kind of outside influence.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Clinton had no possible benefit from being impeached.

Not so Trump. He can present it as a scam, witch hunt etc etc and use it as a diversion to claim he is a victim. The gullibility of some of the US electorate never ceases to amaze me.

His campaign manager is already tweeting exactly that and Trump will "address the nation" tomorrow, no doubt with more of the same.

Except he was found not to have commited the actions of which he was accused and later admitted and apologised for.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Clinton had no possible benefit from being impeached.

Not so Trump. He can present it as a scam, witch hunt etc etc and use it as a diversion to claim he is a victim. The gullibility of some of the US electorate never ceases to amaze me.

His campaign manager is already tweeting exactly that and Trump will "address the nation" tomorrow, no doubt with more of the same.

Gullibility of some of the electorate.
how many millions would that be then?
About 52% or 17 odd million over here clearly.
Possibly about 100million over there.
Our two countries must have the most gullible societies on the planet in your eyes.
Geez I wish we were all as bright and all knowing as you.
It would make such a great world!

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Feb 20 8.12am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Oh I would.

I have been saying it for many years. It's just got worse under Trump and more obvious.

It was a miracle that Obama managed to get elected with so much garbage being thrown at him. I don't think that would happen today.

You keep telling yourself that.

 

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