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Originally posted by cryrst

Any mileage in this alledged m Biden bribe story.

Much more likely is that the John Bolton revelations in his new book are all true and will fatally damage Trump, who is already nose-diving after all his recent blunders.

What is puzzling is why Bolton didn't release these during the impeachment. Enough of the non-sycophantic Republican Senators might just have broken ranks to have got rid of him earlier.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Much more likely is that the John Bolton revelations in his new book are all true and will fatally damage Trump, who is already nose-diving after all his recent blunders.

What is puzzling is why Bolton didn't release these during the impeachment. Enough of the non-sycophantic Republican Senators might just have broken ranks to have got rid of him earlier.

Did you actually edit out the $6m bit ?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Much more likely is that the John Bolton revelations in his new book are all true and will fatally damage Trump, who is already nose-diving after all his recent blunders.

What is puzzling is why Bolton didn't release these during the impeachment. Enough of the non-sycophantic Republican Senators might just have broken ranks to have got rid of him earlier.

Which is why Bolton lacks credibility he wouldn't testify when it mattered but is happy to dish the dirt for money. That doesn't mean he is not telling the truth I have no idea but I suspect the American public will have forgotten him by November he has had his 15 minutes.

As for some of his revelations they are not all bad. Trump tried to persuade the Chinese to buy more agricultural produce and so help him out. Wow what a wicked man sticking up for US farmers I suspect that the voters in those communities will say that behind closed doors Trump was doing what he told then he would do publicly and if he gets any personal benefit out of it fair enough.

Politicians do this all the time. Tony Blair moved tens of thousands of civil service jobs from the south to Labour voting areas in the north. That benefited those areas and did it help him? Of course it did.

Edited by Badger11 (18 Jun 2020 7.33am)

 


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Originally posted by cryrst

Did you actually edit out the m bit ?

No. Why it happened I have no idea.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jun 20 9.14am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Which is why Bolton lacks credibility he wouldn't testify when it mattered but is happy to dish the dirt for money. That doesn't mean he is not telling the truth I have no idea but I suspect the American public will have forgotten him by November he has had his 15 minutes.

As for some of his revelations they are not all bad. Trump tried to persuade the Chinese to buy more agricultural produce and so help him out. Wow what a wicked man sticking up for US farmers I suspect that the voters in those communities will say that behind closed doors Trump was doing what he told then he would do publicly and if he gets any personal benefit out of it fair enough.

Politicians do this all the time. Tony Blair moved tens of thousands of civil service jobs from the south to Labour voting areas in the north. That benefited those areas and did it help him? Of course it did.

Edited by Badger11 (18 Jun 2020 7.33am)

Blair did that because it made sense. Those seats were already secure then and politically it was more likely to damage him in the south than help him in the north.

Bolton was present at the meeting and knows what motivated Trump. If you think he ever thinks of others then you are deluded. He is 100% self interest.

Why Bolton held back can have nothing to do with book sales. They would have likely been even bigger during the impeachment. Maybe he didn't want to risk Pence.

He wanted to testify but was banned from doing so by Trump and the GOP. No witnesses were permitted by the Senate Chairman.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (18 Jun 2020 9.17am)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Jun 20 9.23am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Much more likely is that the John Bolton revelations in his new book are all true and will fatally damage Trump, who is already nose-diving after all his recent blunders.

What is puzzling is why Bolton didn't release these during the impeachment. Enough of the non-sycophantic Republican Senators might just have broken ranks to have got rid of him earlier.


A disgruntled ex employee slags off his old boss.

What a shocker.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Jun 20 9.23am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Blair did that because it made sense. Those seats were already secure then and politically it was more likely to damage him in the south than help him in the north.

Bolton was present at the meeting and knows what motivated Trump. If you think he ever thinks of others then you are deluded. He is 100% self interest.

Why Bolton held back can have nothing to do with book sales. They would have likely been even bigger during the impeachment. Maybe he didn't want to risk Pence.

He wanted to testify but was banned from doing so by Trump and the GOP. No witnesses were permitted by the Senate Chairman.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (18 Jun 2020 9.17am)

I didn't say that Trump cares about people I have no idea my point was that politicians do make decisions that will help them and also their supporters it's not always an either or.

I disagree about Blair but I will give you another one Blair allowed in millions of immigrants because he wanted to change the social structure of the country (political ambition) with the added benefit that most of these new voters would be Labour supporters (party ambition).

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jun 20 9.34am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


A disgruntled ex employee slags off his old boss.

What a shocker.

Bolton is hardly a "disgruntled employee" is he? He has no need for money or attention.

He is 10 times the man Trump is with much more knowledge and experience. He is also a hawk!

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jun 20 9.41am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I didn't say that Trump cares about people I have no idea my point was that politicians do make decisions that will help them and also their supporters it's not always an either or.

I disagree about Blair but I will give you another one Blair allowed in millions of immigrants because he wanted to change the social structure of the country (political ambition) with the added benefit that most of these new voters would be Labour supporters (party ambition).

The way people attribute false motivations to others as if they are fact never ceases to amaze me. Of course Blair didn't do that! He could see what the economy needed at the time. Trump sees only himself. One is a genuine political leader. One is a self serving demagogue.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The way people attribute false motivations to others as if they are fact never ceases to amaze me. Of course Blair didn't do that! He could see what the economy needed at the time. Trump sees only himself. One is a genuine political leader. One is a self serving demagogue.

Really? I a m not alone in believing this.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Jun 20 10.39am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Bolton is hardly a "disgruntled employee" is he? He has no need for money or attention.

He is 10 times the man Trump is with much more knowledge and experience. He is also a hawk!

Bla bla bla.

He most certainly is a disgruntled employee and the fact that he is prepared to reveal state secrets to exact revenge tells us exactly the sort of man he is.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Jun 20 10.47am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The way people attribute false motivations to others as if they are fact never ceases to amaze me. Of course Blair didn't do that! He could see what the economy needed at the time. Trump sees only himself. One is a genuine political leader. One is a self serving demagogue.

I'm still wondering if you are staggeringly naive or just deliberately obtuse.
I think Blair was always a 'company man' and opened the flood gates to please his masters but it surely must have dawned on him that it would be good for votes too.

Win win for that scum bag.

 

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