In answer to Kermit's question: I've read large chunks of the Qu'ran in English translation. I didn't enjoy it much, but it gives some insight and I'd recommend it to anyone interested in Islam & its place in our modern world. Its tone varies, but it contains disturbing attitudes towards women, which Jews & Christians have largely moved away from.
The actions and recounts of Christ's life are hugely different from the actions and recounts of Muhammad's life, although it took centuries for many Christians to act accordingly.
Judaism & Christianity and their associated cultures have largely evolved away from early teaching regarding women. Some of the worst elements of Islam are still going through that process, I'd suggest.

Very easy to confuse the two as they both spout the same party line.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Well hope she will return an honourable resignation is not the end in politics.

Except the Jews!

He'd have been slaughtered in the media.

I make Sarah Champion right, for what it's worth. Corbyn did the only thing he politically could, for what that's worth too.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

I see you edited out the rest of the sentence, ie:"without supporting someone who is trying to do something about it."

Well you can clear yourself or otherwise by answering my previous question: "Do you agree with Sarah Champion's statement that ""Britain has a problem with British pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls"?

Edited by hedgehog50 (17 Aug 2017 10.08pm)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]