I'm sure they sift through the tweets/Instagram comments they've been getting for the last month though. You can sit there and say people are self serving thought police all you like but don't claim to be a supporter and boo the team whilst trying to implement a style from the gaffer because "it's not the palace way". Yeah cos that Palace way has left us in an exemplary place hasn't it.

The problem is, I've seen a side to Palace fans this season that is different than I've ever seen and it's f***ing embarrassing. We're not the best fans at all, were a bunch of whiney shortsighted know it alls with a losers mindset who think that booing players and staff is a good way of achieving success after 3 games.

Our fans have a massive problem with ambition and are all too happy to accept our lot. I've said this so many times, if Frank were to fail at his job then he'd fail, Parish has shown consistent ruthlessness and he'll no doubt show it again if necessary but in my opinion, and no doubt the majority will hound me and disagree with me for this but I genuinely believe this - we as fans have already decided that whatever he wants to do will not be accepted or tolerated and the writing is already on the wall. The effect we have on the team is not to be understated and before people give me the BS about today, and it was shocking first half I'm not saying it wasn't, but this begun before we even kicked a ball in pre-season and there were so many that were literally just itching for us to lose so they could make their poisonous bulls*** well heard and justified, sad and pathetic.

If you're gonna try a new style, everyone has to buy into it and you have to go for it wholeheartedly - otherwise it's pointless and even more damaging. Please explain to me how on earth the players who "can't play football" apparently are ever going to be comfortable i possession when in the back of their mind they have full knowledge that they are one wrong pass away from 75% of the ground whining like little girls.

I'm not defending today's performance or Frank but for me a big part of his demise will be down to the fact that the fans were never willing to get behind the idea of actually improving our style of play. The writings been on the wall from day one.

Edited by Mstrobez (26 Aug 2017 11.51pm)

We're the Arthur over ere!

Bang on the money imo, Chester.

I have no problem admitting that I'm nervous as hell watching this unfold but fair's fair - let's see what happens.

I've seen some vicious stuff being written about the manager and chair. Whatever happens, that's bang out of order.

Edited by Glazier#1 (27 Aug 2017 12.11am)

Maybe because we were the biggest spenders in England in January and the transfer window is still open...

Edited by Mstrobez (27 Aug 2017 12.10am)

We're the Arthur over ere!

It's hardly early doors when the transfer window has been open since July 1 and we are now only 5 days from it closing

It is too early to say Parish is "full of s*** about his 'ambitions'."
Though

We're the Arthur over ere!

If that's what you've derived from my post then that's upto you mate. Perhaps re read it as I feel you may be missing the point of it. Everyone's frustrated and worried after performances like today, otherwise they're deluded, but this is something that has lingered like a bad smell from the moment he was appointed and I've said time and time again, we as fans massively underestimate how much we undermine the attempt to do things differently. Just as you alluded to happy clappy moonie cult, I'd argue those who believe we could get away with what we've done over the past few years and not do anything to try and change it are apart of their own cult and it's even more illogical. Shortsightedness at its finest amongst palace fans this season.

Edited by Mstrobez (27 Aug 2017 12.28am)

We're the Arthur over ere!