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View cpfc1976's Profile cpfc1976 Flag Reading 27 Aug 17 12.25pm Send a Private Message to cpfc1976 Add cpfc1976 as a friend

Think the problem with trialing 3-4-3 pre season is your back three don't get pressed the way they would do in a competitive match. All looks great until the season starts and it becomes clear that we aren't Ajax MK2.

Also seemed those games were as much to have a look at all the squad players than anything else.

Unlike other prem teams we like to do our experimenting once the season starts and our transfer dealings at the end of August.

 

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View colinandsued's Profile colinandsued Flag Haywards Heath 27 Aug 17 1.09pm Send a Private Message to colinandsued Add colinandsued as a friend

It'sa huge credit to the progress that Palace have made since 2010 that we are in our fifth consecutive season in the Premier League. Our Prem status is our most important asset. We have come too close for comfort to losing it in the last two seasons.

I completely understand the reason for wanting to move towards a more possession based strategy. We have to improve our home form, which is awful. A solid home record is the foundation for staying in and consolidating in the Prem. It's just not feasible to lose game after game at Selhurst Park to bottom half of the table teams and expect to keep on making up the difference by unexpected (if exciting) wins against top 6 teams. Relying on conceding posession, defending deep and break-aways is surely not a sustainable long-term strategy. The fact that Iain Holloway and Alan Pardew both tried and failed to implement more posession based tactics doesn't make it the wrong thing to do.

In that context, the appointment of Frank de Boer always looked like a high risk/high reward appointment. The hope that a player and manager schooled in the Cruyff inspired technical skills and "total football" of Ajax would be able to get a Sam Allardyce team playing his way. What I've seen in the three home games this season is poor performances with players looking thoroughly ill at ease with the tactics they've been asked to implement. And performances only improved (but not enough to get points or goals in two Prem games) when tactics reverted to what players were obviously more comfortable with.

So, the tension that Steve Parish has to deal with is how long can the team play with tactics that are manifestly outside its comfort zone and/or how feasible is it for FdB to implement tactics that are outside his comfort zone and conflict with his own culture and approach.

And all with four day to go before the transfer widow closes with some critical gaps in the squad to be filled.

 

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View StainesPalace's Profile StainesPalace Flag Staines 27 Aug 17 1.41pm Send a Private Message to StainesPalace Add StainesPalace as a friend

De Boer out. Seriously. f*** it i'll even accept Judas Freedman back just cut to the chase now before we end up a division below Brighton.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 27 Aug 17 2.23pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by colinandsued

It'sa huge credit to the progress that Palace have made since 2010 that we are in our fifth consecutive season in the Premier League. Our Prem status is our most important asset. We have come too close for comfort to losing it in the last two seasons.

I completely understand the reason for wanting to move towards a more possession based strategy. We have to improve our home form, which is awful. A solid home record is the foundation for staying in and consolidating in the Prem. It's just not feasible to lose game after game at Selhurst Park to bottom half of the table teams and expect to keep on making up the difference by unexpected (if exciting) wins against top 6 teams. Relying on conceding posession, defending deep and break-aways is surely not a sustainable long-term strategy. The fact that Iain Holloway and Alan Pardew both tried and failed to implement more posession based tactics doesn't make it the wrong thing to do.

In that context, the appointment of Frank de Boer always looked like a high risk/high reward appointment. The hope that a player and manager schooled in the Cruyff inspired technical skills and "total football" of Ajax would be able to get a Sam Allardyce team playing his way. What I've seen in the three home games this season is poor performances with players looking thoroughly ill at ease with the tactics they've been asked to implement. And performances only improved (but not enough to get points or goals in two Prem games) when tactics reverted to what players were obviously more comfortable with.

So, the tension that Steve Parish has to deal with is how long can the team play with tactics that are manifestly outside its comfort zone and/or how feasible is it for FdB to implement tactics that are outside his comfort zone and conflict with his own culture and approach.

And all with four day to go before the transfer widow closes with some critical gaps in the squad to be filled.

Only improved against Ipswich's kids on Tuesday when we went four at the back and brought on Townsend. 70 mins of slow and boring dross before that.

 

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View glazedallover's Profile glazedallover Flag Allier 27 Aug 17 2.38pm Send a Private Message to glazedallover Add glazedallover as a friend

It would be nice now, if the board made it clear sooner rather than later, if they were still behind him or not, and try to conclude transfer business (if there is any to conclude) before the end of the window rather than scrabbling around on thursday.......... then pigs might fly.

 

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View salop-eagle's Profile salop-eagle Flag 27 Aug 17 4.21pm Send a Private Message to salop-eagle Add salop-eagle as a friend

Of course there's a meeting! I'd be worried if there weren't. Parish, de Boer, Freedman need to get their strategy/priorities/targets sorted for what is going to be a pivotal few days till deadline.

This may be particularly important in view of start to season but would be absolutely necessary at this stage anyway. Nothing to do with FdeB's job security (at this early stage!)

 

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palaceken Flag 27 Aug 17 4.43pm

Originally posted by Tom R

Parish made an initial investment of a couple of million pounds which is now worth about £30 million. He takes an annual salary of £650k and losses from the championship seasons were returned after the first season in the EPL so yes he has lined his pocket and lacks the commitment shown by chairman like Dean Hoyle at Huddersfield.

Wow you have opened a can of worms there mate . I dared to criticise saint Steve in a thread and question where 5 seasons prem league money went . Sale of yanic and more . I got crusified.

 

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View Glɑzier's Profile Glɑzier Flag 27 Aug 17 6.04pm Send a Private Message to Glɑzier Add Glɑzier as a friend

Originally posted by palaceken

Wow you have opened a can of worms there mate . I dared to criticise saint Steve in a thread and question where 5 seasons prem league money went . Sale of yanic and more . I got crusified.

Pffff, he so has not opened a can of worms, that's nonsense.

The money's mostly gone on salaries and a net transfer spend I would think. That should be no surprise to anyone. Can't be bothered to work it out, but I doubt that would leave us with more than 10 million or so.

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 27 Aug 17 6.48pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

If you was a player would de Boer inspire you. Comes across very droney.

 


Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 27 Aug 17 7.07pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Get David Wagner in. Pay what it takes the guy on an upward curve and deserves a chance at a bigger club than Huddersfield.

 


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View Freedman87's Profile Freedman87 Flag Sticksville 27 Aug 17 7.15pm Send a Private Message to Freedman87 Add Freedman87 as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Get David Wagner in. Pay what it takes the guy on an upward curve and deserves a chance at a bigger club than Huddersfield.


I'm sure he does. Why would he want to come to us , then?

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 27 Aug 17 7.17pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Freedman87


I'm sure he does. Why would he want to come to us , then?

I would usually say more money to spend and bigger club, but I'm struggling

 


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