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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Sep 17 3.56pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

4 games seems harsh. But in a league of very tight margins it's still 10% of the season and a run of matches where I would have expected us to pick up 7 of the 40 points target for survival.

Given that we have no points, no goals, hardly any shots, and look totally uncomfortable defending plus a run of Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea coming up there's a very good chance we could be cut adrift before 10 games have been played.

Burnley away is now a must win. I hope he has a change of fortune like we did with Freedman in 2012/13. If we don't, he has to go.

I would say a "Must not lose" game.
A point at Burnley would, in the circumstances, be a decent result.

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 07 Sep 17 4.09pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I would say a "Must not lose" game.
A point at Burnley would, in the circumstances, be a decent result.

0-0 he goes. If we don't register a shot on target and show willing to win. He already claimed was Swansea was must win.

 


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jeeagles Flag 07 Sep 17 4.14pm

I would have taken a point had the first 3 games not been so abysmal. As we dropped 6 points vs Huddersfield and Swansea we now need all 3 here.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Sep 17 4.23pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

You missed the point, every post isn't in colleration to you. My post was replying to willow about it's just 'new fans' that want success too soon. When you chairman not denying constant media rumours about the manager future. I guess his mind made up. I didn't mention about financial backing in this thread.

I know your post was in reply to Willo. I wasn't calling you out for not replying to me. I'm not that precious. I was just repeating my question because after my question you were repeating your claims of not backing the manager during the thread.

I have highlighted the keywords as to why it would be a good idea to chill. So you know it yourself, maybe a little persuasion.

There are a couple of reasons why Parish shouldn't or shouldn't need to 'publicly back Frank.'

1. It's the dreaded vote of confidence and if he is sacked then that opens up more arguments.

2. He's already stated what I've said above regarding 'results, Frank knows this, if we don't get them, well.'

3. How does Parish know what the next 2 games will be? Could be brilliant, or could be terrible (see points 1 and 2).


Edited by Rudi Hedman (07 Sep 2017 4.35pm)

 


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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 07 Sep 17 4.43pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I know your post was in reply to Willo. I wasn't calling you out for not replying to me. I'm not that precious. I was just repeating my question because after my question you were repeating your claims of not backing the manager during the thread.

I have highlighted the keywords as to why it would be a good idea to chill. So you know it yourself, maybe a little persuasion.

There are a couple of reasons why Parish shouldn't or shouldn't need to 'publicly back Frank.'

1. It's the dreaded vote of confidence and if he is sacked then that opens up more arguments.

2. He's already stated what I've said above regarding 'results, Frank knows this, if we don't get them, well.'

3. How does Parish know whether the next 2 games will be? Could be brilliant, or could be terrible (see points 1 and 2).
Coller

There 3 valid points but when you take 6 weeks to appoint a manager and during this search saying you want to find the right man and also mention evolution not revolution. While I agree that parish expected a gradual change not a complete system change. He backed pardew long enough , so wether the next 2 results are bad or not he deserves to at least deny stories. From my point of view he seems to of undermined FDB by buying Sakho, not denying his not a great player but not 1 quote from FDB on Sakho. Parish is the main issue for me, Since Sam left - the whole transfer window and manager search has been amateur. How can a premier league side have 1 fit adequate striker, not of replaced mandanda. His the common denominator here. Like that tosun coming out saying I would of joined had it not been for a late bid by palace and the transfer had done earlier.

Edited by Dan89 (07 Sep 2017 4.44pm)

 


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View eagle@ tn34's Profile eagle@ tn34 Flag hastings 07 Sep 17 5.58pm Send a Private Message to eagle@ tn34 Add eagle@ tn34 as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

There 3 valid points but when you take 6 weeks to appoint a manager and during this search saying you want to find the right man and also mention evolution not revolution. While I agree that parish expected a gradual change not a complete system change. He backed pardew long enough , so wether the next 2 results are bad or not he deserves to at least deny stories. From my point of view he seems to of undermined FDB by buying Sakho, not denying his not a great player but not 1 quote from FDB on Sakho. Parish is the main issue for me, Since Sam left - the whole transfer window and manager search has been amateur. How can a premier league side have 1 fit adequate striker, not of replaced mandanda. His the common denominator here. Like that tosun coming out saying I would of joined had it not been for a late bid by palace and the transfer had done earlier.

Edited by Dan89 (07 Sep 2017 4.44pm)

You may be right but it was Parish I presume ( as we had no amangerat the time ) that managed to get Zaha to stay.

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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 07 Sep 17 6.15pm Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Allardyce has said that it was Sakho who sorted the defence and aside from the Liverpool game it did appear that he was a big part of our survival...and now he's back! Secondly Zaha is such a massive part of our team that we are a shadow of ourselves without him. With both those players in the first XI I think we may have scraped a draw against Liverpool and got something against Swansea irrespective of the formation.

Onwards!

Agreed we need our best two players back fit.
Frank needs to switch to a 4 and then the Moany Holers hopefully will shut the f*** up.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Sep 17 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

There 3 valid points but when you take 6 weeks to appoint a manager and during this search saying you want to find the right man and also mention evolution not revolution. While I agree that parish expected a gradual change not a complete system change. He backed pardew long enough , so wether the next 2 results are bad or not he deserves to at least deny stories. From my point of view he seems to of undermined FDB by buying Sakho, not denying his not a great player but not 1 quote from FDB on Sakho. Parish is the main issue for me, Since Sam left - the whole transfer window and manager search has been amateur. How can a premier league side have 1 fit adequate striker, not of replaced mandanda. His the common denominator here. Like that tosun coming out saying I would of joined had it not been for a late bid by palace and the transfer had done earlier.

Edited by Dan89 (07 Sep 2017 4.44pm)

As much as Pardew frustrated me he had some credit in the bank. But Frank has none, and has come in and what appears to be promise gradual changes and do the exact opposite. ask yourself, how would you respond to someone saying and doing that in a couple of weeks after starting the job and being given access to £45 million net spend, when you know yourself 3-4-3 is going to need £100 mil, Ward isn't in a million years a wing back and the chances of us getting 3 competent back 3 CB's is slim at best? And that's on top of keeper, back up striker, back up whatever else.

Honestly mate, sometimes fans on here verge on the type of lazy criticisms coming from panellists and pundits. 'Lack' of funds and other sh1t.

Parish has said its a results business, which it is. He hasn't 'publicly backed' Frank because the start, approach, selections, respect for palace, opponents and league has been not a lot short of arrogant and insulting. That's why. He needs to up his game and the 'results and Frank knows' comment needed saying.

However, I hope Frank heeds this and we move forward.

 


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View Pikester's Profile Pikester Flag Worthing 07 Sep 17 7.14pm Send a Private Message to Pikester Add Pikester as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

State of it.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 07 Sep 17 7.57pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Croydon Troll has excelled in his lack of knowledge yet again. He has no idea when we are playing.
Many on here are demanding FDB be sacked etc, but they don't realise the enormity of the task he took on. We lost 4 out of 5 at the end of last season, the only win coming against a poor doomed Hull side.
All this stuff about bring Sam back is nonsense, he couldn't improve us in the long term. Parish realised that and has tried something new, whether FDB was the right choice is yet to be seen.
Any manager he employed had a very difficult job, as we are not as good as many on here think we should be.
Give FDB 10 games to show what he can do, 3 games is no time.
Why should Parish make any statement, it will only be held as gospel and used to beat him with.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Sep 17 8.08pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Croydon Troll has excelled in his lack of knowledge yet again. He has no idea when we are playing.
Many on here are demanding FDB be sacked etc, but they don't realise the enormity of the task he took on. We lost 4 out of 5 at the end of last season, the only win coming against a poor doomed Hull side.
All this stuff about bring Sam back is nonsense, he couldn't improve us in the long term. Parish realised that and has tried something new, whether FDB was the right choice is yet to be seen.
Any manager he employed had a very difficult job, as we are not as good as many on here think we should be.
Give FDB 10 games to show what he can do, 3 games is no time.
Why should Parish make any statement, it will only be held as gospel and used to beat him with.

Parish realised Sam couldn't improve us long-term and is trying something new? Really?

I agree Parish shouldn't need to make a statement, even though he has saying its a results game and Frank knows this.

 


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View Tommyp151211's Profile Tommyp151211 Flag 07 Sep 17 8.25pm Send a Private Message to Tommyp151211 Add Tommyp151211 as a friend

Generally speaking, as long as we kick it in the correct direction FDB will still be in charge on Monday no matter what the result is. (Win, lose, or draw).


Don't believe all of the media hype.

 

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