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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Sep 17 10.39am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is typical of how employment discipline works at its worst.
Someone makes an accusation which cannot be substantiated and then others come out of the woodwork with a grudge and make similar claims.
So several unsubstantiated claims are believed or used as an excuse to sack the individual with no evidence whatsoever.

Shameful.


He hasn't been sacked though, he resigned. The FA cleared him twice. Why would he resign?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Sep 17 10.40am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Precisely.Lets wait until we actually know the facts.

Do you really think that is necessary in this case?

It stinks and even you know it.

This is one of the oldest tricks in the employment book.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Sep 17 10.41am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I hope he wins because then he can sue their ass in court for defamation.

I hope he does take action, if everything is a clear as it seems on the surface, he's going to win a case of constructive dismissal.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Sep 17 10.43am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Do you really think that is necessary in this case?

It stinks and even you know it.

This is one of the oldest tricks in the employment book.

Yeah, I think its necessary in every case, to be sure. It stinks definitely. But then so did the initial allegations against Savile; I was very ready to say, it was 'ambulance chasing'.

I guess you have to have faith to some degree that the assorted court systems, appeals and legal bodies can resolve this, and establish what happened.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Sep 17 10.57am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Yeah, I think its necessary in every case, to be sure. It stinks definitely. But then so did the initial allegations against Savile; I was very ready to say, it was 'ambulance chasing'.

I guess you have to have faith to some degree that the assorted court systems, appeals and legal bodies can resolve this, and establish what happened.

None of which have ever been proven in a court of law.
I'm sure the FA will be quite happy for tongues to wag. If he wins an employment tribunal and goes to court then it all becomes public. Let's see if they buy him off first.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Sep 2017 10.58am)

 

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View Charlie Croker's Profile Charlie Croker Flag Hampshire 21 Sep 17 11.29am Send a Private Message to Charlie Croker Add Charlie Croker as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And you are nothing like an open mind.

Let's see what he did at Bristol shall we.

In 2014 the club was made aware of the FA’s investigation into allegations surrounding Mark Sampson. Bristol Academy Women cooperated fully with that investigation, which found that Mark Sampson did not pose a safeguarding risk working in the game. The club has had no further contact from the FA on this subject in the intervening years.
– BRISTOL ACADEMY STATEMENT

So effectively 3 investigations - nothing proven. Doesn't mean innocence, but surely something else is going on here.

 


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View Baldfella's Profile Baldfella Flag Wigan 21 Sep 17 11.40am Send a Private Message to Baldfella Add Baldfella as a friend

Unfortunately in the world we live in when a black/Asian person plays the race card sooner or later governing bodies will find a sacraficial scapegoat just to stop the whining!

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Sep 17 11.44am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

In 2014 the club was made aware of the FA’s investigation into allegations surrounding Mark Sampson. Bristol Academy Women cooperated fully with that investigation, which found that Mark Sampson did not pose a safeguarding risk working in the game. The club has had no further contact from the FA on this subject in the intervening years.
– BRISTOL ACADEMY STATEMENT

So effectively 3 investigations - nothing proven. Doesn't mean innocence, but surely something else is going on here.

Well I'd say that they have dug up something that was dealt with three years ago as an excuse to sack him now.Did he lose his job back then? He will win a tribunal case I'm fairly certain but that that is hardly the point.

IMO, this is about the fear put into institutions by a few accusations of 'racism' even when there is no evidence of it, and more importantly the fear that it might damage the careers of their leadership and the potential for making money.

The slippery slope just got a little more slippery.

 

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Originally posted by Baldfella

Unfortunately in the world we live in when a black/Asian person plays the race card sooner or later governing bodies will find a sacraficial scapegoat just to stop the whining!

This particular black lady was paid £80,000 by the FA to go away after playing the race card

 

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I know of someone who played the race card in grass roots sport that might've got this person to a very high level. Trouble was the evidence, and there was factual evidence, was clear this person wasn't as good as others. Case lost.

 


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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

This particular black lady was paid £80,000 by the FA to go away after playing the race card

If I held a card potentially worth £80k I would play it.
More fool those making the payment!

Edited by rob1969 (21 Sep 2017 12.34pm)

 

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View Charlie Croker's Profile Charlie Croker Flag Hampshire 21 Sep 17 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Charlie Croker Add Charlie Croker as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Well I'd say that they have dug up something that was dealt with three years ago as an excuse to sack him now.Did he lose his job back then? He will win a tribunal case I'm fairly certain but that that is hardly the point.

IMO, this is about the fear put into institutions by a few accusations of 'racism' even when there is no evidence of it, and more importantly the fear that it might damage the careers of their leadership and the potential for making money.

The slippery slope just got a little more slippery.

Listening to the FA Chief Exec on the Bristol situation, sounds more like it could have been a relationship between coach and player. Still, the FA investigated it then and still hired him for England, then 3 years later say 'oh we've only just read that report, looks like we made an error' just as other unproven allegations are being made . . .

And in this crazy, f*cked up PC world we live in, the ebola comment he made to Eni Aluko isn't racist, but can be made to sound that way to fit an agenda. He's had his contract paid up, but I hope he has grounds to sue as reputationally he's been shafted, despite the various comments that 'he's fine to work in football, just not for England!'

On a CPFC note - another ex-England manager paid off. How long before he's seen in Sainsburys car park??

 


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