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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Sep 17 12.59pm
Originally posted by Charlie Croker In 2014 the club was made aware of the FA’s investigation into allegations surrounding Mark Sampson. Bristol Academy Women cooperated fully with that investigation, which found that Mark Sampson did not pose a safeguarding risk working in the game. The club has had no further contact from the FA on this subject in the intervening years. – BRISTOL ACADEMY STATEMENT So effectively 3 investigations - nothing proven. Doesn't mean innocence, but surely something else is going on here. Having read a bit more it pangs of the FA trying to cover their own failures, that firstly they hadn't reviewed the investigations and provided proper oversight, and secondly hadn't considered the reports in full when hiring him. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 21 Sep 17 12.59pm

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

In 2014 the club was made aware of the FA’s investigation into allegations surrounding Mark Sampson. Bristol Academy Women cooperated fully with that investigation, which found that Mark Sampson did not pose a safeguarding risk working in the game. The club has had no further contact from the FA on this subject in the intervening years.
– BRISTOL ACADEMY STATEMENT

So effectively 3 investigations - nothing proven. Doesn't mean innocence, but surely something else is going on here.

Having read a bit more it pangs of the FA trying to cover their own failures, that firstly they hadn't reviewed the investigations and provided proper oversight, and secondly hadn't considered the reports in full when hiring him.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Sep 17 1.00pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle This particular black lady was paid £80,000 by the FA to go away after playing the race card I think the issue at Bristol, which seems to be the central issue, wasn't about race, but of an inappropriate sexual relationship. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 21 Sep 17 1.00pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

This particular black lady was paid £80,000 by the FA to go away after playing the race card

I think the issue at Bristol, which seems to be the central issue, wasn't about race, but of an inappropriate sexual relationship.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Sep 17 1.05pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think the issue at Bristol, which seems to be the central issue, wasn't about race, but of an inappropriate sexual relationship. Both issues, Jamie. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 21 Sep 17 1.05pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think the issue at Bristol, which seems to be the central issue, wasn't about race, but of an inappropriate sexual relationship.

Both issues, Jamie.

COYP

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Stirlingsays 21 Sep 17 1.08pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think the issue at Bristol, which seems to be the central issue, wasn't about race, but of an inappropriate sexual relationship. The problems with this are so inherent and the potential for advantage so obvious that if you are male and looking to lead in the female game you need your head examining. . Independent of whether Sampson did anything significant or not.....Any bloke is a sitting duck. Just another example of the so called equality environment progressivism has provided society with. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

21 Sep 17 1.08pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think the issue at Bristol, which seems to be the central issue, wasn't about race, but of an inappropriate sexual relationship.

The problems with this are so inherent and the potential for advantage so obvious that if you are male and looking to lead in the female game you need your head examining. .

Independent of whether Sampson did anything significant or not.....Any bloke is a sitting duck.

Just another example of the so called equality environment progressivism has provided society with.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Sep 17 1.16pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think the issue at Bristol, which seems to be the central issue, wasn't about race, but of an inappropriate sexual relationship. More like a relationship that they were happy to overlook until they needed an excuse to get rid of him. How can you possibly sack someone because they had a consensual relationship in another job if that is the case? Unless it is a matter of national security, why should your personal life have any baring on anything ,both coach or player? A bloke surrounded by women? Give me a break.
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21 Sep 17 1.16pm

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think the issue at Bristol, which seems to be the central issue, wasn't about race, but of an inappropriate sexual relationship.

More like a relationship that they were happy to overlook until they needed an excuse to get rid of him.
How can you possibly sack someone because they had a consensual relationship in another job if that is the case?
Unless it is a matter of national security, why should your personal life have any baring on anything ,both coach or player?

A bloke surrounded by women? Give me a break.

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Kermit8 Hevon 21 Sep 17 1.29pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger More like a relationship that they were happy to overlook until they needed an excuse to get rid of him. How can you possibly sack someone because they had a consensual relationship in another job if that is the case? Unless it is a matter of national security, why should your personal life have any baring on anything ,both coach or player? A bloke surrounded by women? Give me a break. Understand the sentiment but maybe not that black and white. A male teacher would be sacked if having an affair with a 16 or 17 year old female pupil and it's looking like Sampson's role had an identical boundary that he crossed. His past may just have caught up with him. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 21 Sep 17 1.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A bloke surrounded by women? Give me a break.

Understand the sentiment but maybe not that black and white.

A male teacher would be sacked if having an affair with a 16 or 17 year old female pupil and it's looking like Sampson's role had an identical boundary that he crossed. His past may just have caught up with him.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Sep 17 1.34pm
[Link] Part of the problem is that the FA are so scared of litigation that they are covering up anything they feel offends. Pro USA & Israel
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Part of the problem is that the FA are so scared of litigation that they are covering up anything they feel offends.

Pro USA & Israel

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Sep 17 1.48pm
If his misdemeanour isn't anything untoward then when is Karren Brady going to get her comeuppance? COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 21 Sep 17 1.48pm

If his misdemeanour isn't anything untoward then when is Karren Brady going to get her comeuppance?

COYP

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legaleagle 21 Sep 17 1.54pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Independent of whether Sampson did anything significant or not.....Any bloke is a sitting duck. Just another example of the so called equality environment progressivism has provided society with. Perhaps,rather,just another example of jumping to a reactionary conclusion without knowing the facts....very open minded.
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legaleagle

21 Sep 17 1.54pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Independent of whether Sampson did anything significant or not.....Any bloke is a sitting duck.

Just another example of the so called equality environment progressivism has provided society with.

Perhaps,rather,just another example of jumping to a reactionary conclusion without knowing the facts....very open minded.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 21 Sep 17 1.56pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Perhaps,rather,just another example of jumping to a reactionary conclusion without knowing the facts....very open minded. I expect he admitted to voting for Brexit or some other crime. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 21 Sep 17 1.56pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Perhaps,rather,just another example of jumping to a reactionary conclusion without knowing the facts....very open minded.

I expect he admitted to voting for Brexit or some other crime.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Stirlingsays 21 Sep 17 2.03pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Perhaps,rather,just another example of jumping to a reactionary conclusion without knowing the facts....very open minded. Or rather it's common sense. It's obvious, they are sitting ducks. Brady has a relationship with a player and then marries him....nothing. As it should be....Sampson, sacked.....No suggestion at all that he's violent...Gets called a racist....All the team hug him after scoring the first goal against Russia in his last game. Males are sitting ducks. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Sep 2017 2.16pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

21 Sep 17 2.03pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Perhaps,rather,just another example of jumping to a reactionary conclusion without knowing the facts....very open minded.

Or rather it's common sense.

It's obvious, they are sitting ducks.

Brady has a relationship with a player and then marries him....nothing. As it should be....Sampson, sacked.....No suggestion at all that he's violent...Gets called a racist....All the team hug him after scoring the first goal against Russia in his last game.

Males are sitting ducks.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Sep 2017 2.16pm)

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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Sep 17 2.18pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger More like a relationship that they were happy to overlook until they needed an excuse to get rid of him. How can you possibly sack someone because they had a consensual relationship in another job if that is the case? Unless it is a matter of national security, why should your personal life have any baring on anything ,both coach or player? A bloke surrounded by women? Give me a break. Its probably in the bylaws of the FA that sexual relationships between managers and players have to be declared. I tend to agree, however its important to also remember that pressure can play a role in these things. Also what if you break up, and then you find that your not getting picked anymore. Its a minefield. A lot of companies try to limit relationships between staff and their managers (and even other employees) because of the problems it can create when relationships turn sour - Relationships rarely end mutually - and it can create problems in the workplace. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 21 Sep 17 2.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A bloke surrounded by women? Give me a break.

Its probably in the bylaws of the FA that sexual relationships between managers and players have to be declared. I tend to agree, however its important to also remember that pressure can play a role in these things. Also what if you break up, and then you find that your not getting picked anymore.

Its a minefield.

A lot of companies try to limit relationships between staff and their managers (and even other employees) because of the problems it can create when relationships turn sour - Relationships rarely end mutually - and it can create problems in the workplace.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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