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Originally posted by rob1969

The vote may be illegal according to the Spanish constitution so any result will be purely a indication of people wishes and in no way binding or having any validity. Therefore why not let them go ahead and just ignore the outcome. Using force to try to prevent the vote seems totally pointless and just rings of Spain of 40 + years ago. Really unbelievable!

Hopefully the EU can have some influence here.

What have they done.

 

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.TUX. Flag 01 Oct 17 5.52pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Hopefully the EU can have some influence here.

What have they done.

LMFAO

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Oct 17 6.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

LMFAO

I know...it's freaking something else.....He actually doesn't know that the EU have backed Spain completely on this issue.

The anti democratic EU being anti democratic....who knew.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 7.50pm

Article 7 of the European Union Treaty
"Suspension of any Member State that uses military force on its own population."


Hmm.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 8.28pm

 

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View eaglelad's Profile eaglelad Flag 01 Oct 17 9.51pm Send a Private Message to eaglelad Add eaglelad as a friend

Truly is abhorrent to see the fascist salutes from those Spanish people in that clip. Have read the tweets after also which gives more insight as well as that other link of that blog you shared a few posts back.

Thanks nickgusset.

This violent action by the Spanish authorities and the fascist salutes from those Neanderthals will only make the Catalans strive for Independence even more now I reckon.

 

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View Charlie Croker's Profile Charlie Croker Flag Hampshire 01 Oct 17 10.09pm Send a Private Message to Charlie Croker Add Charlie Croker as a friend

Originally posted by eaglelad

Hahah, I just got the Catatonia joke

Lol, quality

Could you maybe explain it to pefwin?

 


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View Barcelona eagle's Profile Barcelona eagle Flag Cubelles 01 Oct 17 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Barcelona eagle Add Barcelona eagle as a friend

Both sides (politicians) have got this so so wrong, for so long now, today was always going to end badly.

The Catalan government have used the elderly and kids as shields and the Spanish government (Guardia Civil &
Policia Nacional) have beaten, kicked, shot at, and more the peiple it is supposed to protect!

The different police forces even had it out with the mossos (Catalan police who I detest) and the fire brigade, both of whom were protecting the public. As for the Catalan government they are just as corrupt and lie as much as Madrid, I phoned my local MP on Friday asking where as a resident I can vote, he told me phone the Generalitat (Catalan government), they said they did not know if I could, I also tried the Municipal association of independence, again they could not tell me, basically the vote was for Catalans not it's residents. I have been living here 19 years, have bought property, paid taxes (a lot) bought up a child here (Catalan/Spanish/English speaking), I deserved the right to vote as well.

This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, national strike being called for here on the 3rd October.

Originally posted by eaglelad

Truly is abhorrent to see the fascist salutes from those Spanish people in that clip. Have read the tweets after also which gives more insight as well as that other link of that blog you shared a few posts back.

Thanks nickgusset.

This violent action by the Spanish authorities and the fascist salutes from those Neanderthals will only make the Catalans strive for Independence even more now I reckon.

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 02 Oct 17 1.08pm

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

Could you maybe explain it to pefwin?

I understood but you ain't funny.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 02 Oct 17 1.15pm

Originally posted by Barcelona eagle

Both sides (politicians) have got this so so wrong, for so long now, today was always going to end badly.

The Catalan government have used the elderly and kids as shields and the Spanish government (Guardia Civil &
Policia Nacional) have beaten, kicked, shot at, and more the peiple it is supposed to protect!

The different police forces even had it out with the mossos (Catalan police who I detest) and the fire brigade, both of whom were protecting the public. As for the Catalan government they are just as corrupt and lie as much as Madrid, I phoned my local MP on Friday asking where as a resident I can vote, he told me phone the Generalitat (Catalan government), they said they did not know if I could, I also tried the Municipal association of independence, again they could not tell me, basically the vote was for Catalans not it's residents. I have been living here 19 years, have bought property, paid taxes (a lot) bought up a child here (Catalan/Spanish/English speaking), I deserved the right to vote as well.

This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, national strike being called for here on the 3rd October.

Nationalists v Nationalists.

The logic behind Spain's position on internal regions, Gibraltar and Melilla and Cueta has always been unsustainable.

As a resident, do you think this is a (re)start of a resistance? A Catalan and Basque autumn rather than an Arab spring?

 


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"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 02 Oct 17 1.56pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Barcelona eagle

Both sides (politicians) have got this so so wrong, for so long now, today was always going to end badly.

The Catalan government have used the elderly and kids as shields and the Spanish government (Guardia Civil &
Policia Nacional) have beaten, kicked, shot at, and more the peiple it is supposed to protect!

The different police forces even had it out with the mossos (Catalan police who I detest) and the fire brigade, both of whom were protecting the public. As for the Catalan government they are just as corrupt and lie as much as Madrid, I phoned my local MP on Friday asking where as a resident I can vote, he told me phone the Generalitat (Catalan government), they said they did not know if I could, I also tried the Municipal association of independence, again they could not tell me, basically the vote was for Catalans not it's residents. I have been living here 19 years, have bought property, paid taxes (a lot) bought up a child here (Catalan/Spanish/English speaking), I deserved the right to vote as well.

This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, national strike being called for here on the 3rd October.

Until they get a right to vote from central government, and not just carry one out because they want to, it can't be deemed legal in any way.

Even the Catalan leader, I think it was, said he couldn't vote where he was supposed to as the police had closed it, so he voted somewhere else. That doesn't sound like an election that isn't prone to illegal voting or voting errors.

And then it's a matter for all of Spain to vote on, not just Catalonia.

 


Optimistic as ever

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 03 Oct 17 12.13am

Biased, but interesting and informative in places.

[Link]

 

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