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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 30 Sep 17 11.16pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

The majority of us on here are genuine fans, so what has gone wrong? For me, it all started before the cup final. Somebody had this wonderful idea to change our style and since then everything has gone south big time. SP told us all to change our mentality and look on Palace as a forward-thinking upward bound club, yeah right!! I honestly believe we have good enough players to be mid-table but we look simply lost with no direction. Why really did Pulis leave? Has to be SP and his transfer policy I believe? Big mistake IMO. I just hope we by some miracle can turn this around, but I doubt it.

 

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View Wilbraham413's Profile Wilbraham413 Flag 01 Oct 17 2.49am Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

Yes, I think Parish screwed up by forgetting that we are a team who was just barely good enough to avoid relegation last year. It's like he thought we were an elite team.

He took a bad team, added no better players, and hired a manager who played a style completely opposite for what we should be doing.

Now our two best players are injured.

It's a combination of really bad management and really bad luck.

Since we're not a rich club, the goal each year should be avoiding disaster, and giving us the best chance to avoid relegation.

Parish did the exact opposite. He gambled big and lost.

 


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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 01 Oct 17 4.47am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

This is intriguing = [Link]

 

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View Croydonlad's Profile Croydonlad Flag sydenham 01 Oct 17 5.02am Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

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View Croydonlad's Profile Croydonlad Flag sydenham 01 Oct 17 5.04am Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

Originally posted by matthau

This is intriguing = [Link]

Nothing intriguing about it
He's trying to save his job and in the process trying to praise his sad mate that got us in this mess FDB

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 01 Oct 17 5.31am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

FDB did nothing wrong, he was hired but not left to do his job, he had targets, they were not met. He wasn't a likeable figure, fair enough - but why didn't they realise this in the hire process.

Ofcourse, in hindsight, he was the wrong choice - but he should't have been sacked after Burnley - that wasn't a sackable offence. He should have been given until xmas, but, all the turmoil in the club, would that have been worse?

Fact is, parish needs to step aside. He hires and fires way too much, he is the problem.

 


This was once a quality forum....

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View Selhurstboys's Profile Selhurstboys Flag Basel 01 Oct 17 5.49am Send a Private Message to Selhurstboys Add Selhurstboys as a friend

For me it's mainly down to Parish and his sentimental decision making. He likes to surround himself with people that have some sort of identity or affinity with the club or area. I'm talking about people like Puncheon, he's one of our own, Bright a legend, Freedman another legend and now Roy, a nice old gentleman from Croydon. In Freedman's case, I mean, why would you appoint someone who has very little job or PL experience as a sporting director? Ok, there is real talent in some of these decisions like Zaha, and he could be the difference in us staying up, but generally sentimental decision making will fail us.

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice feeling to have people involved in our club where we feel their hearts are in the job, Parish included, but the Premier League is a ruthless multi-billion £ business and for me there's no room for sentimentality to really be successful. That stuff should be left to us fans.

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 01 Oct 17 6.07am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by Selhurstboys

For me it's mainly down to Parish and his sentimental decision making. He likes to surround himself with people that have some sort of identity or affinity with the club or area. I'm talking about people like Puncheon, he's one of our own, Bright a legend, Freedman another legend and now Roy, a nice old gentleman from Croydon. In Freedman's case, I mean, why would you appoint someone who has very little job or PL experience as a sporting director? Ok, there is real talent in some of these decisions like Zaha, and he could be the difference in us staying up, but generally sentimental decision making will fail us.

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice feeling to have people involved in our club where we feel their hearts are in the job, Parish included, but the Premier League is a ruthless multi-billion £ business and for me there's no room for sentimentality to really be successful. That stuff should be left to us fans.

...and people with more experience of football who have come to the club and gone.

 


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View mseagle's Profile mseagle Flag 01 Oct 17 6.36am Send a Private Message to mseagle Add mseagle as a friend

It has to be said that the club and particularly Parrish have made more good decisions than bad ones. Since taking over he has been nothing but good news for this club, finding ourselves in the fifth
Year in the PL and spending big on some players has been unheard of in our history.
However over the past year big mistakes have been made. Pardew stayed to long and the FA cup final masked that. Crucially also during his reign he was asked to change the style of play - not Pardew fault but this was a disaster and nearly cost us relegation. Mistake three was not keeping Sam. I don't buy the whole retirement story. I suspect once he heard there was little money available that was it, he was gone. Next mistake was FDB. No one apart from SP asked to radically change our style but we went with it but crucially he did not back the manager in transfer market. Like when Pardew was asked to play it differently he had a whole bunch of players who could not easily adapt. Bizarelly just as it started to look better, at Burnley, he was sacked. The final or latest error was not getting at least 2 strikers in. You need depth across all 11 spots and 1 striker only is not how to run a club - it was so predictable.there would be some kind of injury to CB.
So what has gone wrong is not one thing but a catalogue of errors that have left us where we are. Not sure where the Yanks facctor in all this but we are left with a poor squad overall, a club that doesn't seem to have any clear direction whatsoever, save the obvious one that we are already looking at relegation. Don't have fhe answers but the club need to come up with some quickly and start making some better decisions,

 

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 01 Oct 17 6.37am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

too many managers over a short period of time has left us with a squad with no identity .poor transfer dealings have added to our woes leaving us with a squad that is just not premier league .

We have too many players on wages that doesn't match their abilities , we will never be able to transform or even add to the squad while we cant get rid of Championship players on premier league money .

That's just a couple of thoughts of why we are in this mess ,it was catching up with us last season and its caught up with us now . If we can get our injured players back and keep them on the pitch for the rest of the season we might just pull it off again but the problems will not go away , they will be back again

 


And we still need a striker

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View oldstand's Profile oldstand Flag Christchurch 01 Oct 17 7.16am Send a Private Message to oldstand Add oldstand as a friend

Big Sam appears to avoid any criticism, his walk out has contributed to this mess. Bought players to get us over the line, not players to take us forward.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 01 Oct 17 7.25am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by oldstand

Big Sam appears to avoid any criticism, his walk out has contributed to this mess. Bought players to get us over the line, not players to take us forward.

I read his autobiography and he's been pretty close to retirement from club football for a couple of years, really since he initially turned down the Sunderland job. Put that together with the six-month contract break clause and the writing was very much on the wall if he kept us up. For him it seems to have been about going out on a high after the England debacle. To be fair, he did the right things for us at the time, last season; it's the decisions since then that have got us where we are.

 


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