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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 01 Oct 17 6.46pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by slubglurge

Every club our size who think they have established themselves are always just one nad decision away from disaster and we made that decision when we failed to appoint Dyche and now we will pay the consequences

Must say Dyche has got Burnely playing very well. Also looks to have made good signings.

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 01 Oct 17 6.48pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1


Cheer up our best player will be back soon.

Yeah until he gets hacked out of the game again a la Huddersfield..Why are we a one man team ?. Every manager knows, stop Zaha ,by fair means or foul and you stop Palace

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 01 Oct 17 6.53pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Must say Dyche has got Burnely playing very well. Also looks to have made good signings.

For what is worth was my choice for our summer manager. When you look at the fact that they have lost some of their key squad players he has done very well.

 


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View bodge's Profile bodge Flag 01 Oct 17 6.59pm Send a Private Message to bodge Add bodge as a friend

Originally posted by Croydonlad

He did everything wrong , absolutely everything , you DO NOT get a side to play the way he wanted that are used to playing basic football .
Completely him to blame
Yes we should have more than one fit striker , thats crazy , but FDB ruined the confidence of this squad

Sorry but our problems are nothing to do with FDB we have been poor for well over a year even under SA we were poor but for a handful of games. We all knew if we lost Wilf and C/B we were going to struggle so its no surprise we are in trouble. Sacking FDB made no sense he had the balls to tell it as it is, bad man management maybe but it looks like he was right some of our players are not good enough and are not working hard enough. We needed a striker as a priority RLC Riedwald and FM look good so its not all bad. Will our players be fired up by RH I doubt it he talks just like D.Moyes did, I hope I am wrong because our best eleven should be mid table.

 

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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 01 Oct 17 6.59pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

Dyche was my second choice to Silva, but hey we've got Roy at 70 so who cares???????????????

 

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 01 Oct 17 7.11pm Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

Yeah until he gets hacked out of the game again a la Huddersfield..Why are we a one man team ?. Every manager knows, stop Zaha ,by fair means or foul and you stop Palace

Did you notice their first heavy tackle on Kane. The players were high fiving. Team of thugs

 

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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 01 Oct 17 7.22pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

Wrong?

This is all clearly part of a plan, what else can it be?

Are you suggesting FDB didn't set out his plans and get some assurances he would be in aposition to recruit what he needed?

Equally is it not a clear policy that every transfer window to leave pretty much all of our business to about an hour before the deadline?

There is a master plan at work just no one can see it.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 01 Oct 17 7.43pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

There's loads of reasons on a BBS thread, Where did it all go wrong'?

My main 2 are:

1. Extending and not sacking Pardew soon enough. Extending beggars belief and highlights Parish's recent ineptitude or negligence. A lot of little issues derived from Pardew, his ineptitude and P and P's pally relationship which isn't healthy, and so it proved, which is why they say what they do about family being in business together.

2. As soon as Frank decided 3-4-3, which was probably last season before he knew we had a vacancy whilst he was watching Chelsea on tv. He said something about it just happening to be us this season. If he decided after arriving he's either a fool or just reckless without an ounce of care of the repercussions from his actions.

Nothing wrong with the Liverpool or Burnley performances - we out played Burnley for most of the game. The gift against Southampton was hardly FdB's fault and we were awful against Huddersfield.

My understanding from SP is he wanted us to be able to play with more options and choices i.e. so we weren't too predictable. Well that takes time and as mentioned elsewhere de Boer did not have that luxury.

I think there is a growing realisation that we do have players that aren't good enough, and the process to replace Sam went on for ever. If there were breakdowns between the Board and FdB they should have been sorted out in real time. The mess is entirely of our own making.

 

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View radicalsteve's Profile radicalsteve Flag ottawa 02 Oct 17 12.12am Send a Private Message to radicalsteve Add radicalsteve as a friend

I can't even sleep at night thinking about this! A team is a team, not a bunch of eleven players. We have no team or structure to the squad where the players know what is expected of them and where they stand. Every time Punch goes on to the pitch, what message is that sending - we love mediocrity? Build around players that can make a difference. I think the decline went into free fall the day we signed away Yannick Bolasie (I get it that he wanted out) but the combo of him and Wilf was a defining structure up front. Now we can't score a goal because ..... we have no goal scorers on the pitch - it's not that hard to understand.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Oct 17 12.29am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I think what Parish should do is really embrace technology how many think it works so advantageously. Forget going to games and 1 to 1 meetings. Parish should watch from the yacht in Spain and only communicate with the manager and other football staff by Skype and telephone. It could actually make him more mysterious which he may love.

 


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View Croydonlad's Profile Croydonlad Flag sydenham 02 Oct 17 2.33am Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

Originally posted by slubglurge

Did you notice their first heavy tackle on Kane. The players were high fiving. Team of thugs

All good players get treated heavily , Messi , Ronaldo , Kane ~ Zaha is not even anywhere near these for talent

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Oct 17 2.36am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by davehuggins

Looks to me we all pretty much agree upper management have to take the majority of the blame for this mess. So, at this time of the season what in our opinion can be done to rescue the situation and repair this embarrassment.
For me.
1. Draft in our younger better players immediately especially upfront.
2. Start a major search for a new chief exec (nothing to do with Palace in any shape or form)
3. Start a major search for a younger manager or go and get a top man and pay the price.

Claudio Ranieri. Experienced & appears to be working his magic in Ligue 1 with Nantes

 


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