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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Oct 17 9.09pm

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Corbyn has them running scared. Activate ain't mobilising the Tory yoot.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

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Corbyn has them running scared. Activate ain't mobilising the Tory yoot.

No I would call that having some common sense.

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Oct 17 11.41pm

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No I would call that having some common sense.

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FFS. The NME interview where he said he would look into wiping off current student / tuition fee debt. That's not a pledge or a promise. Yet the hard of understanding still trot out the lie.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

FFS. The NME interview where he said he would look into wiping off current student / tuition fee debt. That's not a pledge or a promise. Yet the hard of understanding still trot out the lie.

How about this then?


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Originally posted by Jimenez

How about this then?


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Guessing he went Nite Nite !!

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 17 12.43am

Originally posted by Jimenez

How about this then?


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What about it?

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

What about it?

SNOOKERED Go on off to bed you sad little man !!

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 17 1.01am

Originally posted by Jimenez

SNOOKERED Go on off to bed you sad little man !!

No it's a bulls*** article from the express.

Rather than diverting from the subject at hand, why not give us your own thoughts on tuition fees, council house building and lifting the pay cap for some public sector workers.

 

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Every article that criticises Corbyn is bulls**t.
Every article/link that criticises the Govt is true.

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 Oct 17 9.17am

Originally posted by nickgusset

No it's a bulls*** article from the express.

Rather than diverting from the subject at hand, why not give us your own thoughts on tuition fees, council house building and lifting the pay cap for some public sector workers.

Tuition fees have effectively undermined education in the UK, and turned it into a business, requiring students to accumulate debt on an unprecedented scale - Undermining the arts and humanities - effectively an attack on the cultural heart of the UK.

Council House building - Its essential that the unregulated excess of the housing market be brought to heel - Homes are NOT investments, they are places where people need to live.

Pay caps are anti-capitalist and break the very notion of a free market - how any pro-capitalist can support the idea is beyond me

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 16 Oct 17 9.41am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Tuition fees have effectively undermined education in the UK, and turned it into a business, requiring students to accumulate debt on an unprecedented scale - Undermining the arts and humanities - effectively an attack on the cultural heart of the UK.

Council House building - Its essential that the unregulated excess of the housing market be brought to heel - Homes are NOT investments, they are places where people need to live.

Pay caps are anti-capitalist and break the very notion of a free market - how any pro-capitalist can support the idea is beyond me

Education should be free but university education should be for the really gifted. I know of some young people who are getting degrees and quite honestly they are not that bright at all. Standards should be much much higher, far fewer people should be going to university and the courses offered should be of use in the real world.
Certainly there should be council housing. But the private sector is inhibited by rigged artificial interest rates, over zealous planning controls, along with mass immigration leading to demand outstripping supply.
I agree with your third point that pay caps are anti free market, the market should determine wage levels - and prices.


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 Oct 17 9.47am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Education should be free but university education should be for the really gifted. I know of some young people who are getting degrees and quite honestly they are not that bright at all. Standards should be much much higher.

This I also agree with - But in doing so we have to reverse the trend where university has become a clearing house for companies to obtain qualified staff - rather than training them in house themselves. University shouldn't be seen as a primary route to enter the workplace, but as an entry into academia and employment that does require very specialist training (medicine for example).

Originally posted by hedgehog50
Certainly there should be council housing. But the private sector is inhibited by rigged artificial interest rates, over zealous planning controls, along with mass immigration leading to demand outstripping supply.

The problem is that the housing market has largely been keeping the UK economy afloat for decades. I agree with the mass immigration, of temporary workers - that's basically created a rental market that's out of control, that became the new 'housing market' (preventing that crashing).

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I agree with your third point that pay caps are anti free market, the market should determine wage levels - and prices.
Edited by hedgehog50 (16 Oct 2017 9.41am)

Thanks.

 


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