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View Dave58's Profile Dave58 Flag Ipswich 21 Nov 17 7.06am Send a Private Message to Dave58 Add Dave58 as a friend

If the government agree to this they are finished. The NHS is on its knees. With Germany in chaos and France fallling out of love with macron, it's time to go in hard. Would anyone have changed their vote had this been known?

 

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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 21 Nov 17 7.29am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

I am In two minds on this,It is worth almost ANY money to get rid of the extra layer of bureaucracy that is the E.U.but it smacks of leaving your golf club and having to pay green fees until you die and continuing to pay for rounds of drinks In the nineteenth hole that you will not be there to consume.Not one politician has justified any payment legally,odd that.

 

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S'alright don't panic. The Brexit experts on Hol have already quite clearly stated that we don't need to pay a penny AND we will end up with wonderful trade deals as soon as we leave and that everyone will own a mansion.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 21 Nov 17 8.19am

They should pay us £40 billion
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Edited by hedgehog50 (21 Nov 2017 8.19am)

 


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Originally posted by Dave58

If the government agree to this they are finished. The NHS is on its knees. With Germany in chaos and France fallling out of love with macron, it's time to go in hard. Would anyone have changed their vote had this been known?

Yeah odd that the divorce bill was ignored by both sides. Just shows how woefully under-informed they and we were.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 21 Nov 17 8.23am

Originally posted by Kermit8

S'alright don't panic. The Brexit experts on Hol have already quite clearly stated that we don't need to pay a penny AND we will end up with wonderful trade deals as soon as we leave and that everyone will own a mansion.

Why are you so worried about businesses and their trade, and the banks? They are all evil capitalists aren't they? You should be celebrating shouldn't you if you think they will be impoverished? Surely it will further weaken the failing capitalist system and you will be able to kick in the rotting door and usher in the socialist utopia?

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 21 Nov 17 8.49am

Thats cos it's being handled by Politicians. If reasonable, intelligent people were involved it wouldn't become a pantomime, we would know the number and just tie up any loose ends, instead we have to have political wrangling and soundbites.

Bored of the whole thing

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Nov 17 10.21am

Originally posted by Dave58

If the government agree to this they are finished. The NHS is on its knees. With Germany in chaos and France fallling out of love with macron, it's time to go in hard. Would anyone have changed their vote had this been known?

Problem is, its a pretty reasonable figure. The UK offer of 20bn is absurd, as it won't even cover the pensions of UK EU citizens. The EU 80bn is to high.

40-50bn is actually around a reasonable figure, and pretty much covers most of the UKs, if not all, responsibility and commitments vis a viz the EU.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Nov 17 10.22am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Why are you so worried about businesses and their trade, and the banks? They are all evil capitalists aren't they? You should be celebrating shouldn't you if you think they will be impoverished? Surely it will further weaken the failing capitalist system and you will be able to kick in the rotting door and usher in the socialist utopia?

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 21 Nov 17 10.27am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

If we want a future free of this nonsense we should simply terminate brexit.

 

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Problem is, its a pretty reasonable figure. The UK offer of 20bn is absurd, as it won't even cover the pensions of UK EU citizens. The EU 80bn is to high.

40-50bn is actually around a reasonable figure, and pretty much covers most of the UKs, if not all, responsibility and commitments vis a viz the EU.

It sounds about right - there's a 20bn rebate due in arrears, they could just tie that in and say "20bn and keep the rebate" and everyone would be happy.

Still, I'm sure there are many more political points to be scored along the way, and now the Germans look like having another election, that should make everything much more straight forward

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Nov 17 11.12am

Originally posted by steeleye20

If we want a future free of this nonsense we should simply terminate brexit.

Not without another referendum. Whether one supports Brexit or not, the people spoke, and in a democracy referendums should be binding on the state. Without going to the people, any government that simply decided to 'terminate brexit' would be undermining democratic process in the UK.

The time for this was at the last election, where parties could have proposed a second referendum, and had the people decide.

 


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