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View tome's Profile tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 25 Nov 17 11.11pm Send a Private Message to tome Add tome as a friend

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No this is not a link to scantily-clad women, though I'm sure someone may provide some in time. I thought this was an interesting article about a different topic - wondered what views are on whether prostitution should be legal, what to do about trafficking, pimps, and drugs.

Also, anyone able to clearly define the difference between legalisation and decriminalisation? Or are they two terms for the same thing?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Nov 17 11.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Yep, should be legal and regulated.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Nov 17 11.21pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The sooner society rids itself of repressive attitudes towards sex the better.

So many people have weird ideas about the most natural act that they were all designed for. Centuries of nonsense from religion and misplaced value judgements over it have caused untold damage.

 


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Prostitution has recently been criminalised in Ireland. A big political push from an alliance of religious loons and Feminazi's.


its early days, but i reckon the move will be as successful as alcohol prohibition in 1920's America.

 


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View tome's Profile tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 26 Nov 17 7.28pm Send a Private Message to tome Add tome as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The sooner society rids itself of repressive attitudes towards sex the better.

So many people have weird ideas about the most natural act that they were all designed for. Centuries of nonsense from religion and misplaced value judgements over it have caused untold damage.

Agreed, how would you regulate it?

 


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View Michaelawt85's Profile Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 26 Nov 17 10.57pm Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

Originally posted by tome

Agreed, how would you regulate it?

Licenced brothels or massage parlours. Testing for all workers. Show a certificate in order to be able to work. Therefore more protection for the women who are routinely assaulted or subjected to forms of abuse during the course of earning a living.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 26 Nov 17 11.03pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Prostitution has recently been criminalised in Ireland. A big political push from an alliance of religious loons and Feminazi's.


its early days, but i reckon the move will be as successful as alcohol prohibition in 1920's America.

Oi. No politics in New General Talk.

 

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Originally posted by tome

Agreed, how would you regulate it?

One of the weak argument for legalising drugs is that it gets rid of the black market.....which it doesn't if you think about it...it just lowers the price.

This is also a problem with legalising the selling of sex.....but whereas with drugs I can see the argument that the state shouldn't be adding to the list of approved negative lifestyle choices that it makes money from.....I don't see how that argument relates to prostitution. You can't overdose on fcuking.

I don't claim to have given the topic much thought in terms of how it would be best regulated.....the principle however remains that this area should not be criminalised.

I can see an argument for kerb crawling to be banned like it is now....simply as other people have a right not to have sex sellers shoving their wears in their face.

Licensed brothels, properly run for both the safety of their workers and their clients.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Nov 2017 11.48pm)

 


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the funny thing about this is the only difference between a p***.tar and hooker is the camera and worker rights lol

silly how this country is about this subject we had this stuff going on hundreds of years ago but now in modern day we are iffy about it.

 


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Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Licenced brothels or massage parlours. Testing for all workers. Show a certificate in order to be able to work. Therefore more protection for the women who are routinely assaulted or subjected to forms of abuse during the course of earning a living.


Yup. As well as being safer, cleaner and oppression free, legitimate brothels should also undermine the illicit traffic of women.

Even if a regulated system has its faults it would nevertheless be better than illegal brothels with very young "imported" women forced to work in fear and confinement.

Won't happen though. Same reason sensible drug legislation won't happen. The older generation - Willo types - don' like it. They don't know why. It just "feels" wrong somehow. And since they do all the voting, we will have to wait until that generation dies out before any sensible policies can be brought in.

When that happened the next generation will have to deal with the organised criminal syndicates who have evolved do deal with prohibition drugs and women. If you think they will suddenly disappear when good sense takes hold think again. The Cosa Nostra and other powerful criminal organisations who blossomed under US prohibition are still rich and powerful 90 years after booze was re-legalised. They had the infrastructure, money and numbers in place. All they needed to do was diversify.


 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

One of the weak argument for legalising drugs is that it gets rid of the black market.....which it doesn't if you think about it...it just lowers the price.

This is also a problem with legalising the selling of sex.....but whereas with drugs I can see the argument that the state shouldn't be adding to the list of approved negative lifestyle choices that it makes money from.....I don't see how that argument relates to prostitution. You can't overdose on fcuking.

I don't claim to have given the topic much thought in terms of how it would be best regulated.....the principle however remains that this area should not be criminalised.

I can see an argument for kerb crawling to be banned like it is now....simply as other people have a right not to have sex sellers shoving their wears in their face.

Licensed brothels, properly run for both the safety of their workers and their clients.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Nov 2017 11.48pm)

Legal drugs would be pure, safe, available from the corner shop and pass revenue to the Revenue. Why buy rubbish from a dealer, even if cheap?

Likewise, licensed brothels in discrete areas [a la "Hamsterdam" in The Wire] would be a huge advance on where we are now.

 

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Originally posted by silvertop

Legal drugs would be pure, safe, available from the corner shop and pass revenue to the Revenue. Why buy rubbish from a dealer, even if cheap?

Because it's cheaper....because it's additional...because you might not want an 'other' to know...any number of reasons. People are people living wildly different lives and some don't do what you think is sensible.

The black market exists where drugs have been legalised. It was an obvious flaw in the original logic and pro legalization claims should have always recognised it . Still, legalisation would reduce the issue we have.

Originally posted by silvertop

Likewise, licensed brothels in discrete areas [a la "Hamsterdam" in The Wire] would be a huge advance on where we are now.

Sure.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Nov 2017 10.57am)

 


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