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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Dec 17 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

If you look at the planning page on Croydon council's website it tells you who has supported or objected to the application.

Of the few that are in support most are unsurprisingly from business addresses based in the middle of Purley, but for some reason the Purley Scout Group have decided to support the application. I bet the majority of the parents of the kids going there wouldn't be very impressed with them getting involved.

Oh and you don't have to fill out the rest of that survey page if you want to sign it but not share all your details.

Scout group probably get a new venue.

Read on the BBS the vicar in favour of this is moving just before building starts. Good move!

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 01 Dec 17 4.57pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Reading that most couldn't give a sh1t, but then again lots of the BBS wouldn't mind a communist states of Europe.

If apathy is causing anybody to not sign this then just remember when one pops up unnecessarily near you that you didn't sign to oppose this whacking great thing that it seems only deserves to be there because there's loads of traffic passing through.

Btw, I was in favour a housing development on the Chaldon golf course but loads of nimbys got in the way of that. That's exactly where houses should be going. There or new towns or adding homes to towns away from London.

Remember this when you're clinging onto the luggage rack on the dangerously packed commuter train after hundreds more board at Purley.

Maybe Reigate, Banstead, Oxted, Selsdon, Bromley or anywhere there's a junction and some traffic and shops where any shopping community existed in the '70s deserve one of these. Maybe the A22 by David Gold's. Lots of traffic and traffic links there.

Looks like little has been learnt from past planning howlers. Oh well, get out and stay out and see how the graduates get on with their desires.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (01 Dec 2017 4.42pm)

That was always a non-starter, and I don't agree that it's a good place to put them anyway. They'd be better off in the Valley where there is a train station at least, and more than one bus route.

There's only one way to build affordable housing and it's by doing it as far away from London as possible, but the trouble is next to no one wants to move there.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 01 Dec 17 4.59pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Scout group probably get a new venue.

Read on the BBS the vicar in favour of this is moving just before building starts. Good move!

Yep, just realised it's the scout group attached to the church, that have also supported the plans as they get a "new church space".

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Dec 17 5.01pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

That was always a non-starter, and I don't agree that it's a good place to put them anyway. They'd be better off in the Valley where there is a train station at least, and more than one bus route.

There's only one way to build affordable housing and it's by doing it as far away from London as possible, but the trouble is next to no one wants to move there.

Affordable in the valley AND more family homes on chaldon way golf course and other similar sites.

There is no reason for them not going there apart from the loss of one golf course amongst dozens under subscribed and some noise and dirty roads for a few years. Completely selfish if you ask me.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Affordable in the valley AND more family homes on chaldon way golf course and other similar sites.

There is no reason for them not going there apart from the loss of one golf course amongst dozens under subscribed and some noise and dirty roads for a few years. Completely selfish if you ask me.

Stop knocking them down in Purley and putting cul-de-sacs in their place instead for a start.

It's the only golf course in Caterham and the access to and from the entire site would all be through one entrance/exit. They almost always do this with new build estates and it's f***ing daft. The barracks and the other one backing on to the course for example.

Where are they going to go to school too? They're all over subscribed with the nearest one being minuscule and the second nearest is special needs only.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Dec 17 6.08pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Stop knocking them down in Purley and putting cul-de-sacs in their place instead for a start.

It's the only golf course in Caterham and the access to and from the entire site would all be through one entrance/exit. They almost always do this with new build estates and it's f***ing daft. The barracks and the other one backing on to the course for example.

Where are they going to go to school too? They're all over subscribed with the nearest one being minuscule and the second nearest is special needs only.

The one near the roundabout opposite where the Clifton pub was is a nice development. Yorke Gate doesn't have a traffic problem and neither does Hambledon Park. The barracks is a problem during busy Tesco shopping hours. Nothing to do with the homes.

The only golf course in Caterham? Every town needs a golf course? God stone, oxted, woldingham (2), sanderstead, anywhere else?

Stop knocking what down in Purley? Large houses with huge gardens? Some of those sites wouldn't get planning permission for flats because of light issues and objections.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (01 Dec 2017 7.44pm)

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 01 Dec 17 7.21pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Affordable housing, doesn't mean $hlt housing.

The developer has played their opening gambit, but it will need to be much reduced before Permission is granted.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 04 Dec 17 2.26pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The one near the roundabout opposite where the Clifton pub was is a nice development. Yorke Gate doesn't have a traffic problem and neither does Hambledon Park. The barracks is a problem during busy Tesco shopping hours. Nothing to do with the homes.

The only golf course in Caterham? Every town needs a golf course? God stone, oxted, woldingham (2), sanderstead, anywhere else?

Stop knocking what down in Purley? Large houses with huge gardens? Some of those sites wouldn't get planning permission for flats because of light issues and objections.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (01 Dec 2017 7.44pm)

The one where the Clifton Arms was is tiny and irrelevant, Yorke Gate is also not a problem but the other two are. Both should have an alternative place to exit than Coulsdon Road. And the houses and occupiers contribute just as many problems as Tesco does.

Yeah the only one. Purley has a couple, Reigate and Rehill have a few each, Oxted has a couple as does Edenbridge.

Yep, family homes in Purley with gardens. They've knocked down dozens on the A23 alone, never mind the whole town. They've all got permission for flats or cramming in as many small houses as possible, as they've been built or are being built.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Dec 17 2.40pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

The one where the Clifton Arms was is tiny and irrelevant, Yorke Gate is also not a problem but the other two are. Both should have an alternative place to exit than Coulsdon Road. And the houses and occupiers contribute just as many problems as Tesco does.

Yeah the only one. Purley has a couple, Reigate and Rehill have a few each, Oxted has a couple as does Edenbridge.

Yep, family homes in Purley with gardens. They've knocked down dozens on the A23 alone, never mind the whole town. They've all got permission for flats or cramming in as many small houses as possible, as they've been built or are being built.

I meant the development over the road to the Clifton, not the flats right where the Clifton was.

I have no problem with closes or flats of 3 storeys being built along most main roads. They're spreading out of Caterham northwards, will probably happen in warlingham, and I've no issue with them anywhere on the A23. There's no need for a skyscraper in towns like Purley. It's just maximising profit and the further demise of the place whilst those developing it sip cocktails in the Indian Ocean far away from it before returning to an idyllic village somewhere.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I meant the development over the road to the Clifton, not the flats right where the Clifton was.

I have no problem with closes or flats of 3 storeys being built along most main roads. They're spreading out of Caterham northwards, will probably happen in warlingham, and I've no issue with them anywhere on the A23. There's no need for a skyscraper in towns like Purley. It's just maximising profit and the further demise of the place whilst those developing it sip cocktails in the Indian Ocean far away from it before returning to an idyllic village somewhere.

That's because it has more than one entrance/exit point.

I agree there's no need for a Skyscraper in Purley, stick another one in E. Croydon instead, but I also think it'd be wrong to build hundreds of houses in Chaldon. Especially when there are presently so many being built close by on the old Cane Hill site, but that doesn't count as it's not in Tandridge.

Sounds to me like the two options they're debating are hardly likely to be in Tandridge either. One is actually in Redhill and the other is in Edenbridge.

 


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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 05 Dec 17 8.02am Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

If you look at the planning page on Croydon council's website it tells you who has supported or objected to the application.

Of the few that are in support most are unsurprisingly from business addresses based in the middle of Purley, but for some reason the Purley Scout Group have decided to support the application. I bet the majority of the parents of the kids going there wouldn't be very impressed with them getting involved.

Oh and you don't have to fill out the rest of that survey page if you want to sign it but not share all your details.

I think you will find that the Purley Scout Group in question are attached to the Baptist Church in Purley and thus heavily in favour of the development!

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 05 Dec 17 8.16am Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

The real issue with the development in Purley is the height.
Nothing exists over 6 stories at present. Grant this one of 17 and the flood gates will open.
Developers will see that they can get plans through for more mixed developments up to 17 stories anywhere in the Borough!
This development comprises of 3 to 17 storey building with basements comprising 114 flats, community and church space and a retail unit on Island Site and a 3 to 8 storey building comprising 106 flats on south site and public realm improvements with associated vehicular accesses. With only 37 parking spaces!

 

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