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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Apr 23 11.03pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Right. That's the Middle East sorted out then. Makes you wonder why they don't just snap out of it.

We are lucky. We live in a society where we have the opportunity to think freely. That's not true everywhere and whilst a shrinking world and international travel will eventually bear fruit, it takes time.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We are lucky. We live in a society where we have the opportunity to think freely. That's not true everywhere and whilst a shrinking world and international travel will eventually bear fruit, it takes time.

The situation is worse now than it was 30 years ago. They've had 2000 years so far. How long is it supposed to take?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Strangely, and unusually, I agree with you.

So what are the fundamentals of human nature? Whilst there has been a lot of debate about this over the ages there is now a general acceptance that humans have the capacity to be good, even though they are not all good. They possess the senses of compassion, shame, distain, respect, courtesy, right and wrong.Humans have a constitution comprising emotional predispositions that direct them to goodness.

We are all humans. Religious belief is secondary.

Ok, so go to Afghanistan and ask the women and girls how this religious belief thing is working out for them; to put just one example out there!

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 08 Apr 23 5.35am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We are lucky. We live in a society where we have the opportunity to think freely. That's not true everywhere and whilst a shrinking world and international travel will eventually bear fruit, it takes time.

Everyone has the opportunity to think freely ( except perhaps when the thought police accuse you of silently praying )

Behaving as such is another thing

FYI the two are different

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 08 Apr 23 7.48am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

I think the sentences should be subject to an increase due to the 'racism' element of the crimes. All the Paedos were of Asian heritage and all the victims were white. Surely the racism element would incur a significant increase in the jail time.?
Interestingly, nothing mentioned by the prosecution or convicting judges during sentencing.
I thought the Stephen Lawrence case was instrumental in invoking such an increase in tariff where racial motives were proved to be in place.
Or does it only work one way ?

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Strangely, and unusually, I agree with you.

So what are the fundamentals of human nature? Whilst there has been a lot of debate about this over the ages there is now a general acceptance that humans have the capacity to be good, even though they are not all good. They possess the senses of compassion, shame, distain, respect, courtesy, right and wrong.Humans have a constitution comprising emotional predispositions that direct them to goodness.

We are all humans. Religious belief is secondary.

Despite you singing along to “I’d Like to Buy the World a Coke”, human history, from ancient times to the present, is one long litany of wars, genocide and madness. In many cases, at the root of these events are differences in race, language, culture and religion (both spiritual and secular).

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Apr 23 9.13am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The situation is worse now than it was 30 years ago. They've had 2000 years so far. How long is it supposed to take?

I don’t know how much you have travelled but the thing that strikes me wherever I go is how similar people are at a human level. People are warm and welcoming. Their culture may not be, but get past that and they are.

I am not blind to the problems but I still believe in the strength of humanity.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Apr 23 9.16am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Everyone has the opportunity to think freely ( except perhaps when the thought police accuse you of silently praying )

Behaving as such is another thing

FYI the two are different

There are no thought police. There are though laws which prohibit intimidation which the police have to administer. Behaviour indeed being different to thought.

 


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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I think the sentences should be subject to an increase due to the 'racism' element of the crimes. All the Paedos were of Asian heritage and all the victims were white. Surely the racism element would incur a significant increase in the jail time.?
Interestingly, nothing mentioned by the prosecution or convicting judges during sentencing.
I thought the Stephen Lawrence case was instrumental in invoking such an increase in tariff where racial motives were proved to be in place.
Or does it only work one way ?

I guess you would need to see the evidence that was presented and admissible to know whether a racial motivation was proven. It might look obvious but that’s not proof.

 


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Originally posted by georgenorman

Despite you singing along to “I’d Like to Buy the World a Coke”, human history, from ancient times to the present, is one long litany of wars, genocide and madness. In many cases, at the root of these events are differences in race, language, culture and religion (both spiritual and secular).

Underlying all those differences is our common humanity.

Tap into that and the differences can and are eroded. Look at the Good Friday agreement. When I was in Israel some years ago I met a hugely impressive Israeli man who cared for local Arab kids with real love and compassion. Such people exist.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Underlying all those differences is our common humanity.

Tap into that and the differences can and are eroded. Look at the Good Friday agreement. When I was in Israel some years ago I met a hugely impressive Israeli man who cared for local Arab kids with real love and compassion. Such people exist.

Look at all the agreements and treaties interspersed among the wars, genocide and madness.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I guess you would need to see the evidence that was presented and admissible to know whether a racial motivation was proven. It might look obvious but that’s not proof.

if a pakistani gang calls a white girl a 'kuffir'...is that a sufficiently loaded racist language ? worse than somebody calling you a Gammon ?

An Indian friend told me that there is much familiarity with Muslim gangs targeting Hindu girls over there. It seems to go back hundreds of years. But seemingly the community-backlash can be a lot firmer than anything seen in places like Rotherham.

 


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