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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I wish we were having this conversation down the pub. offered to buy you a pint when I came to Truro, but then you remembered a cruise you had to go on!!
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You say you are not left wing and economically conservative. Yet you champion every left wing cause on here and attack every policy of the Tories. As usual, you say one thing and do another and seem to seriously believe people are going to believe your disingenuous nonsense. The record in most Labour strongholds is that the deprivation worsens, apart from areas like Islington where champagne-socialists send their children to private schools. Then despite their anti-racism rhetoric, they often retreat to undiversified areas, like Cornwall, to maintain their nice lives while pronouncing on the benefits of diversity. Edited by georgenorman (05 Apr 2023 6.20pm) I have supported Tory governments over many years. However, I have always been on the centre right. I approved of the Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine (who I once met and chatted with) approach. As I am very pro-EU and think Brexit was crazy, that's hardly surprising. So my issue with the Tories is recent. I detested Johnson and the way he put personal ambition over public duty. Truss was even worse. Sunik has restored some belief, but whilst he is becoming more realistic about the EU, he still isn't going fast enough for me. We need to get back in and the first major party that embraces that will get my vote. Labour voters were sold a lie. They won't buy it again. Deprivation tends to increase when underfunding of services occurs and there has been a lot in recent years. We have been through some challenging times and the effects are being felt most severely by the poorest. It's happening right now, and it's not just in Labour controlled areas. Here is Cornwall, Camborne is one of the most deprived areas in the UK. George Eustice is their MP.
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Originally posted by the silurian
offered to buy you a pint when I came to Truro, but then you remembered a cruise you had to go on!! Remembered? I never forgot! You cannot change facts, and I was certainly not going to change a booking for a pint!
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Architects of what though? If no action was taken because of a long term plan to get communities onside why wouldn't they say so? Action was taken though. Just action that has subsequently been criticised as non-effective. If the police were pressurised into acting as the scapegoats who knows what was put to them. I can imagine them being encouraged to do so in the interests of retaining public confidence that the government were on top of the problem. A few early retirements, job done!
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Action was taken though. Just action that has subsequently been criticised as non-effective. If the police were pressurised into acting as the scapegoats who knows what was put to them. I can imagine them being encouraged to do so in the interests of retaining public confidence that the government were on top of the problem. A few early retirements, job done! No conspiracy theory to see then.
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Originally posted by georgenorman
The playing down and excuse making for the scandal of the authorities doing nothing for so long to stop the organised mass rape of white children by paedophiliac, pakistani-heritage rape gangs is the most disgusting feature of what the left has become. Timely news for this topic… It appears that (shock horror) white working class men and women appear to be just as susceptible to group paedophilia and organised sexual assault. 21 of them over at least a decade. Rather obviously this horrendousness is not solely the preserve of one particular group, not that you’d know from the youtube fed tropes on here.
oh contrare, said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus. Did you know? 98% of people are morons. |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Timely news for this topic… It appears that (shock horror) white working class men and women appear to be just as susceptible to group paedophilia and organised sexual assault. 21 of them over at least a decade. Rather obviously this horrendousness is not solely the preserve of one particular group, not that you’d know from the youtube fed tropes on here.
I look forward to it being exposed that the Police were aware of this white gang operating for years. Of the careers wrecked when officers/social workers tried to expose it. Of the paperwork concerning it vanishing from secure council safes. Because that must have all happened as well, based on your logic. Just the same really.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Timely news for this topic… It appears that (shock horror) white working class men and women appear to be just as susceptible to group paedophilia and organised sexual assault. 21 of them over at least a decade. Rather obviously this horrendousness is not solely the preserve of one particular group, not that you’d know from the youtube fed tropes on here. Yes it is good that these people have been convicted and good to see their faces all over the BBC - unlike the pakistani-heritage rape gangs whose background and ethnicity is played down. The seven victims of this one white-heritage sex abuse gang deserve as much sympathy as the thousands of victims of the several pakistani-heritage rape gangs.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
No conspiracy theory to see then. It's certainly just a theory. Whether there was a conspiracy rather less so. When the situation became more widely known isn't the same as when government realised that there was a problem that demanded a policy. Governments come and go, but the civil servants who advise them remain in place, and this is what, I suspect, was in play here. I am just looking at the chain of events and trying to deduce the most logical explanation. You don't have a series of police forces adopting broadly similar strategies unless there is some overall co-ordination. That has to be determined centrally.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Timely news for this topic… It appears that (shock horror) white working class men and women appear to be just as susceptible to group paedophilia and organised sexual assault. 21 of them over at least a decade. Rather obviously this horrendousness is not solely the preserve of one particular group, not that you’d know from the youtube fed tropes on here. I saw this too, and wondered what the response here would be. Having read a couple they are pretty predictable. What I think it suggests is that obtaining admissible evidence against people is easier if the community they live in is on your side and willing to provide it.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I saw this too, and wondered what the response here would be. Having read a couple they are pretty predictable. What I think it suggests is that obtaining admissible evidence against people is easier if the community they live in is on your side and willing to provide it. Sorry to disappoint but the response is exactly the same. Revulsion for those responsible and sorrow for the children involved.
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