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 Sportyteacher  London 21 Dec 17 6.27pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Perhaps we should simply sack ALL politicians that lie to Parliment...but if we did...how many would be left? The ones whom we could arguably trust - there are plenty of folk who can replace the rotten apples especially if it were possible to deselect lying, scheming MPs.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Dec 17 6.31pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Whoa, what? A copper is wrong for exposing the Deputy Prime Minister's mendacity and use of workplace IT that would get Joe Public sacked? No one is above the law. Or are they? As was mentioned earlier Dominic Green did not break the law. He did lie about being informed of the contents of his computer. It has not been proven that it was he who downloaded those images. The police could have informed Parliament but chose not. I presume the officer disagreed with his bosses decision and decided to "out" him 10 years later. The Tories and many other MPS were upset at the police trawling through an MPs computer as they deal with confidential information all the time. Imagine you were a constituent of Mr Green and had complained about police harassment to him. How would any of us feel about the police going on a fishing expedition. As to why the police did not inform the standards and ethics committee I think they had an ethical dilemma of their own. It must have taken a lot of persuading for a judge to issue a warrant to search an MPs computer for the reasons I have given above. They never found the dirt they were looking for but did find the p***. Try going to a judge and ask him for a warrant to search an MPs computer for legal p***. I doubt you would get one Anyway he is gone and it is entirely his fault otherwise we would be talking about the police over reaching their powers.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 21 Dec 17 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
As was mentioned earlier Dominic Green did not break the law. He did lie about being informed of the contents of his computer. It has not been proven that it was he who downloaded those images. The police could have informed Parliament but chose not. I presume the officer disagreed with his bosses decision and decided to "out" him 10 years later. The Tories and many other MPS were upset at the police trawling through an MPs computer as they deal with confidential information all the time. Imagine you were a constituent of Mr Green and had complained about police harassment to him. How would any of us feel about the police going on a fishing expedition. As to why the police did not inform the standards and ethics committee I think they had an ethical dilemma of their own. It must have taken a lot of persuading for a judge to issue a warrant to search an MPs computer for the reasons I have given above. They never found the dirt they were looking for but did find the p***. Try going to a judge and ask him for a warrant to search an MPs computer for legal p***. I doubt you would get one Anyway he is gone and it is entirely his fault otherwise we would be talking about the police over reaching their powers. Fair enough Badger.
Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune) |
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 21 Dec 17 7.42pm |
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He did promise, and being a good conservative im expecting him to keep his word and fcuk right owf! But, he is with the con party,,,,,,,,,
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| silvertop Portishead 21 Dec 17 8.33pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You mean like most of the actual Tory membership. Take a run and jump into an overheated bath. I don't know what you are saying other than the fact you want me to be scolded to death.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Dec 17 8.34pm |
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This tickled me. Will be a whooosh for anyone under 40. Sorry.
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Attachment: | nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Dec 17 8.36pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
I don't know what you are saying other than the fact you want me to be scolded to death.
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| silvertop Portishead 21 Dec 17 8.45pm |
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Originally posted by npn
I find it quite concerning. The police were there looking for evidence of illegal activity, they found none. The officer in question then chose to divulge information about what other, perfectly legal, activity they discovered. I don't know what the law says but I, for one, find it uncomfortable that officers should divulge information they come across during their work willy-nilly with the sole intention of wrecking an innocent man's career. Anything a policeman discovers during investigation deserves to remain private or, at least, within the force. What if they searched someone's home for drugs, and discovered none, but loads of fetish gear - surely that person should still maintain his privacy? Ok, I'll rephrase. I agree the points you have made. However, I was equally concerned that these arguments were used to bully a retired guy with motor neuron disease into keeping quiet. This is one for the Moral Maze with all sides being right... and wrong.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 21 Dec 17 9.21pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
As was mentioned earlier Dominic Green did not break the law. He did lie about being informed of the contents of his computer. It has not been proven that it was he who downloaded those images. The police could have informed Parliament but chose not. I presume the officer disagreed with his bosses decision and decided to "out" him 10 years later. The Tories and many other MPS were upset at the police trawling through an MPs computer as they deal with confidential information all the time. Imagine you were a constituent of Mr Green and had complained about police harassment to him. How would any of us feel about the police going on a fishing expedition. As to why the police did not inform the standards and ethics committee I think they had an ethical dilemma of their own. It must have taken a lot of persuading for a judge to issue a warrant to search an MPs computer for the reasons I have given above. They never found the dirt they were looking for but did find the p***. Try going to a judge and ask him for a warrant to search an MPs computer for legal p***. I doubt you would get one Anyway he is gone and it is entirely his fault otherwise we would be talking about the police over reaching their powers. It was reported tonight on my local TV news (Meridian), that the police didnt have a warrant. Apparently the computer was handed over voluntarily.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 21 Dec 17 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by martin2412
It was reported tonight on my local TV news (Meridian), that the police didnt have a warrant. Apparently the computer was handed over voluntarily. I've tried to put a link up to the report, but can't. Found this below though.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Dec 17 12.24am |
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I don't really think it matters so much what was on his computer, but that he lied to parliament. That's just something you can't get away with.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Dec 17 1.29am |
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Did Treez know all about this before appointing Green as deputy? If so she really is rubbish isn't she?
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