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View MikeCrete's Profile MikeCrete Flag Cheam/Crete 23 Aug 19 11.05am Send a Private Message to MikeCrete Add MikeCrete as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We should get a statement or vote or something sent to Parish of thousands of us who will cancel our season tickets if they take us further down this road. It might be the only way seeing ad Roy will accept it, even though if you read his comment of Ďits up to the owners and DOF. Iím happy to work with Bentekeí it suggests otherwise.

Weíre becoming a joke now.

Think are right Rudi, statement of intent to Parish.
s it is we will be lucky to stay up so is going to buy the season tickets then?

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 23 Aug 19 11.16am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by MikeCrete

Think are right Rudi, statement of intent to Parish.
s it is we will be lucky to stay up so is going to buy the season tickets then?

If we are irrelevant, which is how Iím reading this sh1t now, then they wonít miss my season ticket money. Iíll be a mug to pay it when I can watch at home or fall asleep while itís on or watch the Dallas cheerleader trials instead. Thatís if we stay up and are on streams.

Things or challenges will only get harder when Zaha leaves and we want to add to them? Jokers.

 


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View A89M's Profile A89M Flag Streatham 23 Aug 19 12.09pm Send a Private Message to A89M Add A89M as a friend

Playing devils advocate here but we don't play to Benteke's strengths, which I think is quite clear to all and the only reason I can see that being because of is Wilf - Everything goes through Wilf, where he likes to drive into the box and cut the ball back or commit defenders, which doesn't suit Bentekes one dimensional game at all, which is - 'stand at the back post and hope it lands on my head'.

With the above in mind, are we re-signing Benteke for when Wilf goes and we have to revise how we play? Maybe we'll start playing towards our strikers strengths rather than relying on one man?

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 23 Aug 19 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by A89M

Playing devils advocate here but we don't play to Benteke's strengths, which I think is quite clear to all and the only reason I can see that being because of is Wilf - Everything goes through Wilf, where he likes to drive into the box and cut the ball back or commit defenders, which doesn't suit Bentekes one dimensional game at all, which is - 'stand at the back post and hope it lands on my head'.

With the above in mind, are we re-signing Benteke for when Wilf goes and we have to revise how we play? Maybe we'll start playing towards our strikers strengths rather than relying on one man?

Itís a good point. But Roy doesnít play that way either. Parish hired FDB one year after Benteke to not play the direct football Benteke is suited to.

What do you think Parish will do? Seek out the direct football manager that either doesnít exist or has been promoted with a large kitty and no interest in us. Itís so muddled itís fvcking embarrassing how weíre now being run.

And people claim Parish learns from his mistakes? It would be funny if it wasnít so painful and damaging. He doesnít plan or learn, only wants acquiescent people around him who will usually be inexperienced.

Fvcking heíll i was almost looking forward to 20/21 season after this struggle. Not now.

 


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View A89M's Profile A89M Flag Streatham 23 Aug 19 1.02pm Send a Private Message to A89M Add A89M as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Itís a good point. But Roy doesnít play that way either. Parish hired FDB one year after Benteke to not play the direct football Benteke is suited to.

What do you think Parish will do? Seek out the direct football manager that either doesnít exist or has been promoted with a large kitty and no interest in us. Itís so muddled itís fvcking embarrassing how weíre now being run.

And people claim Parish learns from his mistakes? It would be funny if it wasnít so painful and damaging. He doesnít plan or learn, only wants acquiescent people around him who will usually be inexperienced.

Fvcking heíll i was almost looking forward to 20/21 season after this struggle. Not now.

You're right, Roy doesn't play this way and Parish doesn't seem to like the style either.

IF we stay up, will Roy be here after this season when Wilf leaves? If he doesn't and we have to resort back to direct football to gain stability after Wilfs departure, Benteke would be the ideal striker to have but again, you're right, we have used all the stable British managers who play this way.

It's very hard to see SP's vision..

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 23 Aug 19 1.48pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

A lot of you spend your days crying on here about the clubs finances and how much we waste on wages but you are willing to let 15-20 million walk out the door for free.

Contradicting yourselves !!

If Benteke does not sign a new deal he leaves for free. If he does sign a new deal on same wages then an asset is protected. It may cost us 5 million or so over a year but then he gets sold for say 15 million which is 10 mill profit.

It is a no brainer.

 

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Originally posted by EddieMac

A lot of you spend your days crying on here about the clubs finances and how much we waste on wages but you are willing to let 15-20 million walk out the door for free.

Contradicting yourselves !!

If Benteke does not sign a new deal he leaves for free. If he does sign a new deal on same wages then an asset is protected. It may cost us 5 million or so over a year but then he gets sold for say 15 million which is 10 mill profit.

It is a no brainer.

Which mug are we expecting to part with 15m for a striker with 4 goals in his last 51 apps?


 


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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 23 Aug 19 2.03pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Palace_love_affair

Which mug are we expecting to part with 15m for a striker with 4 goals in his last 51 apps?


Sheffield United paid 20 or so million for Ollie McBurnie. I rest my case.

 

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View RyWa's Profile RyWa Flag Beckenham 23 Aug 19 2.09pm Send a Private Message to RyWa Add RyWa as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Sheffield United paid 20 or so million for Ollie McBurnie. I rest my case.

McBurnie scored 24 goals last season.
He also looked very good when he came on against us.

 

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Originally posted by EddieMac

A lot of you spend your days crying on here about the clubs finances and how much we waste on wages but you are willing to let 15-20 million walk out the door for free.

Contradicting yourselves !!

If Benteke does not sign a new deal he leaves for free. If he does sign a new deal on same wages then an asset is protected. It may cost us 5 million or so over a year but then he gets sold for say 15 million which is 10 mill profit.

It is a no brainer.

nobody in their right mind would pay that a striker who can't score, has no floor skills, can't take penalties and does not know how to work defenders off the ball!

 

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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 23 Aug 19 2.18pm Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

A lot of you spend your days crying on here about the clubs finances and how much we waste on wages but you are willing to let 15-20 million walk out the door for free.

Contradicting yourselves !!

If Benteke does not sign a new deal he leaves for free. If he does sign a new deal on same wages then an asset is protected. It may cost us 5 million or so over a year but then he gets sold for say 15 million which is 10 mill profit.

It is a no brainer.

So why would Benteke suddenly have a change of heart and join another club after signing a new contract with us, when he has already turned down offers from other clubs in the last year? If no club goes in for him and we sign him on a new contract, we're lumbered with him.

If your argument is that because he could get a big signing on fee and large wages for going on a free, why would he then sign a contract with us that are not on better terms than he's currently on?

Literally none of renewing his contract makes any sense.

Losing him on a free may mean we don't recoup any kind of fee, but we also then have over £100k a week off the wage bill which could be used to bring in a loan signing like Batshuayi rather than continue with a player that just isn't working.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 23 Aug 19 2.32pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

So why would Benteke suddenly have a change of heart and join another club after signing a new contract with us, when he has already turned down offers from other clubs in the last year? If no club goes in for him and we sign him on a new contract, we're lumbered with him.

If your argument is that because he could get a big signing on fee and large wages for going on a free, why would he then sign a contract with us that are not on better terms than he's currently on?

Literally none of renewing his contract makes any sense.

Losing him on a free may mean we don't recoup any kind of fee, but we also then have over £100k a week off the wage bill which could be used to bring in a loan signing like Batshuayi rather than continue with a player that just isn't working.

If he is signing a new contract it is because he wants to stay at Palace as there are always buyers and takers for premier league players. You may not think he is worth anything but believe me in todays market even with his recent goal scoring record he is still worth a lot of money.

He doesnt have to have a change of heart, players get sold all the time even though they really dont want to move. So in a years time if the club decise they want him gone then he will be gone. Players generally do not want to stay at clubs where they are not wanted. (Benteke at Liverpool)

It makes perfect sense to get him tied down to a new deal.

Your saying get 100k off the wage bill but are letting 15-20 million walk out the door. The maths dont add up.

 

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