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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 09 Mar 18 7.41pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I have been thinking this as well.
Players DO get fatigued towards the end of games both physically and mentally.

Which goes back to my previous point: why doesn't Hodgson make substitutions when players are running on empty?

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 09 Mar 18 8.39pm

Originally posted by Username

Because he was absolutely knackered at the end of a long, tough game. The same reason Luka probably didn't close down Matic quick enough.

Indeed!

 

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chateauferret Flag 09 Mar 18 9.29pm

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Which goes back to my previous point: why doesn't Hodgson make substitutions when players are running on empty?

Presumably he judges that a good player who's tired is better than a weaker player who's fresh but also cold. Would have been borne out by what happened when he brought Delaney on against Spurs.

 


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Not had a great season but getting criticised for everything he does at the moment. Decent game Monday night. He's also our best defender from set pieces most of the season. Not what he's signed for but big difference.


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 09 Mar 18 10.58pm

Fancy him to score tomorrow.

 


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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Fancy him to score tomorrow.

The way he played against man u he deserved one but with de gea making a quality save to keep it out. It's getting to close for any comfort with us being where we are he's got to contribute quicky.

If he doesn't put chance's away then he should be dropped. It does look like roy will go with Sorloth and Wilf for the run in to the end of the season. It's the only way for the whole team to move forward and God willing we move away from the religation zone.


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Originally posted by chateauferret

Presumably he judges that a good player who's tired is better than a weaker player who's fresh but also cold. Would have been borne out by what happened when he brought Delaney on against Spurs.

Delaney is long gone and bringing him on was a mystery, wrong sub wrong time

 

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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Delaney is long gone and bringing him on was a mystery, wrong sub wrong time

It wasn't a mystery. Tomkins had to go off with severe cramp and Delaney was the only senior centre-back on the bench.

 

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Originally posted by taylors lovechild

It wasn't a mystery. Tomkins had to go off with severe cramp and Delaney was the only senior centre-back on the bench.

Thanks - you have backed up my original point - if Tomkins had to go off due to cramp it shows that he (and many others) have been run into the ground by Hodgson due to his inability to substitute at the right time throughout the current campaign.

 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 10 Mar 18 10.13am Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

As I have posted before Benteke was a bad buy/mistake.Sorloth and wilf upfront ,is are only hope of getting out of relegation places .It hasn’t worked with him upfront alone or with Sorloth alongside .

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 10 Mar 18 10.29am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Thanks - you have backed up my original point - if Tomkins had to go off due to cramp it shows that he (and many others) have been run into the ground by Hodgson due to his inability to substitute at the right time throughout the current campaign.

I wouldn't call 90 minutes of football once a week run into the ground. They are after all professional athletes.

With a squad down to its bare bones you either get first teamers like Tomkins playing the full 90 mins or coming off to be replaced by inferior replacements like Damo. We cant have it either way.

Neither option is ideal but it's where we currently are with our current squad and injuries.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Mar 18 10.30am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Thanks - you have backed up my original point - if Tomkins had to go off due to cramp it shows that he (and many others) have been run into the ground by Hodgson due to his inability to substitute at the right time throughout the current campaign.

Shiver my timbers

This is being critical of a vastly experienced manager who has supposedly erred "Throughout the current campaign".

At the end of the day Hodgson took over a stricken team and has performed miracles thus far.He has been fighting an uphill battle all season and certainly lack of options from the bench has restricted his ability to make changes during a match.

We don't have that luxury of always being able to introduce players to replace lads who might be flagging towards the end I am sure that Hodgson has felt such a course was required but due to the state of the game and his bench, his options have been limited.

Edited by Willo (10 Mar 2018 10.36am)

 

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